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So i love the 40k universe and all of its lore. Id love to start blood angels, but no idea where to start. From what ive seen 2 assualt squad, a librarian, and a sanguinary priest are whats recommended. Any advice?

BA have a bunch of mediocre builds. What interests you the most?

To be honest, I'd hold of buying anything new for a couple of months. 8th ed on the horizon, and a possible re-boot of the Marine mini ranges

I like their story and jump pack tactics. I originally wanted to do sisters, but the models are expensive and i heard they suck hard. With blood angels i can at least convert the models to others if i end up not liking them whereas with the other legjons od need more equipment models right off the bat which would drive up the starting price point

Excellent choice, Blood Angels definitely are the best marines! Blood Angel have some very new and amazing sculpts, with our current range there really is no reason to wait for new releases. I would recommend picking up a box of BA Tacticals, Death Company and Sanguinary Guard from the beginning. The boxes all have a lot of redundant bitz (heads, shoulder pads, weapons, etc.) that you can mix and match e.g. with the standard Assault Marine box. It goes a long way to make your BA look special!

Starting with 1 Assault Squad and some Tactical Marines, 1 Librarian and 1 Sanguinary Priest is a solid choice. I would add some scouts as well, they are a cheap troop choice and always useful.
Expanding from that, I can recommend a Furioso Dreadnought in a drop pod, it's very solid. Don't glue the arms and you can easily swap between frag cannon and Librarian dreadnought.

From there on, a squad of Death Company is always useful. Commander Dante is an excellent leader, especially when leading a squad of Sanguinary Guard. If you like armor, fast vindicators are a lot of fun too!

I too.am thinking of starting Blood Angels. How is the scale of the models compared to Deathwatch marines and 1000 Sons?

Would it be worth it to use death company for the tacticals, since im throwing in a sanguinary priest. I kinda like the idea of a charging deathsquad covered by sniper fire. And imma wait on the furioso till i get the dropship, i forget the name, cuz i can always throw a squad in it till i get the furioso, but i think the furioso would be less useful in a drop pod than aerial cover

Furioso in a drop pod is fantastic. Forget Stormravens; they are bad. I wouldn't use snipers with BA, either.

The Furioso is great in a drop pod because he puts on a lot of pressure and provides a distraction for your advancing infantry. It usually doesn't survive long, but if it neutralizes a key unit with the frag cannon and eats fire from 1-2 more it usually served its purpose.

Stormravens are not as great as they used to be, but they still look amazing, and can be quite effective However, you have to be careful with putting an expensive unit inside, else a large part of your army will be in reserves or zooming around without doing anything. One of the best units in a Stormraven are 10 scouts with pistols and knives, on the charge they dish out 31 attacks with S5 at I5, which will take a lot of people by surprise, they are objective secured and they are cheap. If you team them up with a Sanguinary Priest before charging, they also become quite durable and hit other marines on 3+, making them even better.

BoLS is suggesting that there may be a new codex on the horizon, With a new novel being released in the next couple of weeks that progresses the Rising Liviathan storyline and ties in with Gathering Storm.

basically the Nids are getting to Baal and the BA with their little buddies need help.. But Cadia has just gone pop and doesn't look like help is coming

Ushtarador wrote:
Excellent choice, Blood Angels definitely are the best marines! Blood Angel have some very new and amazing sculpts, with our current range there really is no reason to wait for new releases. I would recommend picking up a box of BA Tacticals, Death Company and Sanguinary Guard from the beginning. The boxes all have a lot of redundant bitz (heads, shoulder pads, weapons, etc.) that you can mix and match e.g. with the standard Assault Marine box. It goes a long way to make your BA look special!

Starting with 1 Assault Squad and some Tactical Marines, 1 Librarian and 1 Sanguinary Priest is a solid choice. I would add some scouts as well, they are a cheap troop choice and always useful.
Expanding from that, I can recommend a Furioso Dreadnought in a drop pod, it's very solid. Don't glue the arms and you can easily swap between frag cannon and Librarian dreadnought.

From there on, a squad of Death Company is always useful. Commander Dante is an excellent leader, especially when leading a squad of Sanguinary Guard. If you like armor, fast vindicators are a lot of fun too!

The reason I recommended holding off sinking money into a BA army is that we don't know what GW plans to do with existing marine chapters post Guilliman New Marine re-boot. Are GW going to consolidate Marines down to just the one Guilliman Marine range ? Or will they run the existing chapters and ranges in parallel ?
After what happened with AoS I'd be very cautious about spending money on marines at the moment. Worryingly the "Devastation of Baal" mentions a possible Time of Ending...

Bartali wrote:

Ushtarador wrote:
Excellent choice, Blood Angels definitely are the best marines! Blood Angel have some very new and amazing sculpts, with our current range there really is no reason to wait for new releases. I would recommend picking up a box of BA Tacticals, Death Company and Sanguinary Guard from the beginning. The boxes all have a lot of redundant bitz (heads, shoulder pads, weapons, etc.) that you can mix and match e.g. with the standard Assault Marine box. It goes a long way to make your BA look special!

Starting with 1 Assault Squad and some Tactical Marines, 1 Librarian and 1 Sanguinary Priest is a solid choice. I would add some scouts as well, they are a cheap troop choice and always useful.
Expanding from that, I can recommend a Furioso Dreadnought in a drop pod, it's very solid. Don't glue the arms and you can easily swap between frag cannon and Librarian dreadnought.

From there on, a squad of Death Company is always useful. Commander Dante is an excellent leader, especially when leading a squad of Sanguinary Guard. If you like armor, fast vindicators are a lot of fun too!

The reason I recommended holding off sinking money into a BA army is that we don't know what GW plans to do with existing marine chapters post Guilliman New Marine re-boot. Are GW going to consolidate Marines down to just the one Guilliman Marine range ? Or will they run the existing chapters and ranges in parallel ?
After what happened with AoS I'd be very cautious about spending money on marines at the moment. Worryingly the "Devastation of Baal" mentions a possible Time of Ending...

the "time of ending" is a phrase that's been used to describe the current epoch for awhile. it's stated to start with the battle of Mcragge. and I mean the Tyranid invasion not the black legion one

Bartali wrote:

The reason I recommended holding off sinking money into a BA army is that we don't know what GW plans to do with existing marine chapters post Guilliman New Marine re-boot. Are GW going to consolidate Marines down to just the one Guilliman Marine range ? Or will they run the existing chapters and ranges in parallel ?
After what happened with AoS I'd be very cautious about spending money on marines at the moment. Worryingly the "Devastation of Baal" mentions a possible Time of Ending...

Well, the models aren't going anywhere any time soon, and Space Marines will always be around as well.

Even if GW consolidates all marines in a single Guilliman legion (which is very unlikely), I don't see any reason why my Gullimarines can't be painted red and have a lot of BA iconography. If you don't play only cutting-edge tournament lists, your models will always be useable. AoS is by the way a prime example where all old miniature received new rules and are still useable in the game. <.<

First advice is paint the helmet and shoulders black >
The only thing cooler than hoity-toity angels and angery not-angels

But as others have said, 40k is in a massive time of uncertainty atm. I wouldn't worry about buying models and having them invalidated, Emperor knows what the gak storm would be if GW pulls marines...
Buying books though, that's a risk. Try to buy them cheap, or borrow them. Unless you want one now for the next few months.

I get the impression that you're totally new to 40k in it's entirety. Which is cool welcome
But jumping straight into a full army is time and money expensive.
I recommend Kill Team for one, 200pts for a small game, it adds a rule or two but the small scale means quite a lot of the sheer mass of 40k won't come into play. That lets you get a hand of the rules (made easier with a friendly experienced player) and you only need a single set or two.
You can't use a lot of our cooler toys in those games such as Dreadnoughts, nor can a lot of it reach it's full potential, such as Death Company, but the last thing you want to do is but 1500pts of Marines and decide they're not for you, or worse 40k isn't for you.

I'm not a BA player but I really love their dreadnoughts, DC with jump packs and dante's golden buddies. I think any BA respectable list should rely on this units mostly. Maybe not extremely competitive but if you want to play BA play BA typical stuff, not a generic SM list with models painted in red and yellow.

I started 40K with BA, but Sisters are the best I mean, that aren't THAT bad.

You'll come around eventually . . .

 Blackie wrote:
I'm not a BA player but I really love their dreadnoughts, DC with jump packs and dante's golden buddies. I think any BA respectable list should rely on this units mostly. Maybe not extremely competitive but if you want to play BA play BA typical stuff, not a generic SM list with models painted in red and yellow.

BA have a lot of "typical BA stuff", but none of it is that good right now. BA lists are going to look very different from vanilla lists by virtue of available formations.


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 Servant of Dante wrote:
I started 40K with BA, but Sisters are the best I mean, that aren't THAT bad.

You'll come around eventually . . .

Sisters are a better monobuild than BA, but if they deviate from that monobuild, they fall off quickly. BA have lots of ways to be mediocre, so I think they are more interesting.