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So, me and a couple om mates have decided to start playing 40k. A couple of guys have some experience with 40k from way back but most of us are newbies. So we are quite clueless when it comes to power levels of our armies and such, but I´m sure it will pan out during the coming year. I have still not played my first game yet, but are thinking about lists to play.

The two alternatives I have constructed are:

The Flayed-C´tan;
Decurion detachment;
Reclamation legion

Catacomb Command Barge
-Phase shifter
-Voidreaper

10 Warriors;
-Ghost ark

10 Warriors;
-Ghost ark

9 Immortals:
-Gauss

3 Tomb Blades:
-Shield vanes
- Nebuloscopes

Flayed ones:
10 Flayed ones

Star-god
C´tan Shard of the Nightbinger

Or

Pew-pew Stalker
Decurion detachment;
Reclamation legion

Overlord
-Nightmare Shroud
-Warscythe

15 Warriors;

15 Warriors;

10 Immortals:
-Gauss

3 Tomb Blades:
-Shield vanes
- Nebuloscopes

Judicator battalion:
Triarch Stalker:
-Heat ray

5 Triarch praetorians
-Rod of Covenant

5 Triarch praetorians
-Rod of Covenant

Flayed ones:
6 Flayed ones

So what do you guys think? I know that I should be playing with wraiths, but I really dont like the models, and I dont want to bring out all the cheese from the start


   
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Flayed Ones are better in units of 20. Most people wouldn't field them unless they have 20.

I dont think the Judicator Battalion is a hood choice as you get 2x5 Praetorians which makes them easy to destroy due to their low numbers.

Also Catacomb isn't worth the points. I know it makes your O lord faster and feel like a pimp but it usually draws your opponents attention and ends up being destroyed turn 1-2. Imho.

If you dont like the wraiths model you could just proxy something in for so you can use it but not have to look at the real model. Just make sure your proxy has the same base as the wraiths.

Original list
Spoiler:

Decurion

Core

Immortals: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

Immortals: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

Overlord: Artefact: The Veil of Darkness, Phase Shifter, Resurrection Orb, Voidblade

Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster

Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster

Warriors: Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior
Warriors: Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior

Auxilliary

Flayed Ones: 20x Flayed One

Total:1235pts

This way all your units move fast so you can have good board control, get objectives, back up units that are under fire etc.

Put the lord with the Flayed Ones, infiltrate the whole unit Turn 1 then use the Veil later on in the game (to keep the unit alive, get an objective, help another unit out, line breaker etc) when something comes up that needs your HQ and friends.

With 15pts left over you could give the O lord the Phylactery to give him "it will not die" rule to make him survive much longer


Edited List
Spoiler:

Decurion

Core

Immortals: Gauss Blaster, 10x Immortals

Overlord: Artefact: The Veil of Darkness, Phase Shifter, Staff of Light

Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster

Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster
Tomb Blade: Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster

Warriors: Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior
Warriors: Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior

Auxilliary

Flayed Ones: 20x Flayed One

Total:1250pts

Put the Overlord with the immortals and use the Veil of Darkness to Deepstrike them.

Either Deepstrike or Infriltrate the Flayed Ones

Extra tomb blades gives you more shooty power and better chance at getting objectives due to the units size and speed

Warriors in ghost ark will destroy nearly every infantry unit in the game. You can Move Flat Out/Jink the Ark to have it snapfire on 6s while the Warriors inside can shoot as normal as they are not affected by the Ark jinking or moving its full 18 inches. 2 does a lot of damage.

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2017/04/11 15:06:07


I have a Youtube. Rage Against The Imperium. Here is the link if you are interested - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WxDMsMyI7WcChiSfApB4Q

Necrons - Legion of The Silent King - [756-809 PL, 15038-16076pts]
Spoiler:

Unbound Army (Faction) (Necrons)
HQ
Anrakyr the Traveller
Catacomb Command Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon, Warscythe - 3
Cryptek
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light - 2
Cryptek
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light - 3
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Staff of Light
Illuminor Szeras
Imotekh the Stormlord
Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Nemesor Zahndrekh
Orikan the Diviner
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Voidscythe
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Warscythe - 3
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light
Overlord
Selections: Hyperphase Sword, Resurrection Orb
Trazyn the Infinite
Vargard Obyron

Troops

Immortals
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 15x Immortal
Immortals
Selections: 15x Immortal, Tesla Carbine
Immortals
Necron Warriors
Selections: 100x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors

Elites

C'tan Shard of the Deceiver
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer
Canoptek Tomb Stalker
Deathmarks
Selections: 25x Deathmark
Flayed Ones
Selections: 20x Flayed One
Lychguard
Selections: Hyperphase Sword and Dispersion Shield, 10x Lychguard
Lychguard
Selections: 6x Lychguard, Warscythe
Triarch Praetorians
Selections: Rod of Covenant, 10x Triarch Praetorian
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Heat Ray*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Particle Shredder*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon*

Fast Attack

Canoptek Scarabs
Selections: 63x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs
Canoptek Tomb Sentinel
Canoptek Wraiths
Selections: 3x Canoptek Wraith
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith w/ Transdimensional Beamer
Selections: 3x Transdimensional Beamer
6x Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
Selections: 6x Whip Coils
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Tomb Blades
Selections: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
Two Gauss Blasters - 9
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon - 3*
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Doomsday Ark
Doomsday Ark
3x Heavy Destroyer
Monolith
Tesseract Ark
Two Tesla Cannons
Selections: 2x Tesla Cannon
Transcendent C'tan

Flyer
Doom Scythe - 4*
Night Scythe - 4*


Dedicated Transport
Ghost Ark - 3*

Lord of War
Gauss Pylon
Obelisk

* - This unit is magnetized so can be either model e.g. Doomscythe or Nightscythe
 
   
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Jackson, TN

Minor point on Odrankt's tip to run his list: The Overlord can not join the Flayed Ones when they Infiltrate. That trick has been FAQ'ed out of the game.

Something to think about when you do get on the Wraith train:

https://spikeybits.com/2014/06/canoptek-scorpion-conversion.html

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/04/11 12:47:24


 
   
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I just read the recent FAQ and saw nothing that say the O lord cant infiltrate with the Flayed One. Also Infiltrate works that if 1 model as infiltrate then the whole unit infiltrates so if I put the O Lord with the FO then he should be able to Infiltrate with them.... So I would assume they still can??? Could you send a link to the FAQ you read just incase I am wrong so I can update my above tactics?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/04/11 13:05:59


I have a Youtube. Rage Against The Imperium. Here is the link if you are interested - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WxDMsMyI7WcChiSfApB4Q

Necrons - Legion of The Silent King - [756-809 PL, 15038-16076pts]
Spoiler:

Unbound Army (Faction) (Necrons)
HQ
Anrakyr the Traveller
Catacomb Command Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon, Warscythe - 3
Cryptek
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light - 2
Cryptek
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light - 3
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Staff of Light
Illuminor Szeras
Imotekh the Stormlord
Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Nemesor Zahndrekh
Orikan the Diviner
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Voidscythe
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Warscythe - 3
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light
Overlord
Selections: Hyperphase Sword, Resurrection Orb
Trazyn the Infinite
Vargard Obyron

Troops

Immortals
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 15x Immortal
Immortals
Selections: 15x Immortal, Tesla Carbine
Immortals
Necron Warriors
Selections: 100x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors

Elites

C'tan Shard of the Deceiver
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer
Canoptek Tomb Stalker
Deathmarks
Selections: 25x Deathmark
Flayed Ones
Selections: 20x Flayed One
Lychguard
Selections: Hyperphase Sword and Dispersion Shield, 10x Lychguard
Lychguard
Selections: 6x Lychguard, Warscythe
Triarch Praetorians
Selections: Rod of Covenant, 10x Triarch Praetorian
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Heat Ray*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Particle Shredder*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon*

Fast Attack

Canoptek Scarabs
Selections: 63x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs
Canoptek Tomb Sentinel
Canoptek Wraiths
Selections: 3x Canoptek Wraith
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith w/ Transdimensional Beamer
Selections: 3x Transdimensional Beamer
6x Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
Selections: 6x Whip Coils
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Tomb Blades
Selections: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
Two Gauss Blasters - 9
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon - 3*
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Doomsday Ark
Doomsday Ark
3x Heavy Destroyer
Monolith
Tesseract Ark
Two Tesla Cannons
Selections: 2x Tesla Cannon
Transcendent C'tan

Flyer
Doom Scythe - 4*
Night Scythe - 4*


Dedicated Transport
Ghost Ark - 3*

Lord of War
Gauss Pylon
Obelisk

* - This unit is magnetized so can be either model e.g. Doomscythe or Nightscythe
 
   
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Jackson, TN

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Errata/Warhammer_40000/Warhammer_40000_Rules_EN.pdf

Page 166
– Independent Character, Independent Characters and Infiltrate Change this sentence to read:

‘An Independent Character without the Infiltrate special rule cannot join a unit of Infiltrators during deployment, and vice versa.’
   
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Well that changes everything... Thank you for the information.

He can still Deepstrike the FO with the Overlord via the Veil of Darkness so the unit can still work even if its limited now.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/04/11 14:47:10


I have a Youtube. Rage Against The Imperium. Here is the link if you are interested - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WxDMsMyI7WcChiSfApB4Q

Necrons - Legion of The Silent King - [756-809 PL, 15038-16076pts]
Spoiler:

Unbound Army (Faction) (Necrons)
HQ
Anrakyr the Traveller
Catacomb Command Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon, Warscythe - 3
Cryptek
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light - 2
Cryptek
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light - 3
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Staff of Light
Illuminor Szeras
Imotekh the Stormlord
Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Nemesor Zahndrekh
Orikan the Diviner
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Voidscythe
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Warscythe - 3
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light
Overlord
Selections: Hyperphase Sword, Resurrection Orb
Trazyn the Infinite
Vargard Obyron

Troops

Immortals
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 15x Immortal
Immortals
Selections: 15x Immortal, Tesla Carbine
Immortals
Necron Warriors
Selections: 100x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors

Elites

C'tan Shard of the Deceiver
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer
Canoptek Tomb Stalker
Deathmarks
Selections: 25x Deathmark
Flayed Ones
Selections: 20x Flayed One
Lychguard
Selections: Hyperphase Sword and Dispersion Shield, 10x Lychguard
Lychguard
Selections: 6x Lychguard, Warscythe
Triarch Praetorians
Selections: Rod of Covenant, 10x Triarch Praetorian
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Heat Ray*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Particle Shredder*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon*

Fast Attack

Canoptek Scarabs
Selections: 63x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs
Canoptek Tomb Sentinel
Canoptek Wraiths
Selections: 3x Canoptek Wraith
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith w/ Transdimensional Beamer
Selections: 3x Transdimensional Beamer
6x Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
Selections: 6x Whip Coils
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Tomb Blades
Selections: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
Two Gauss Blasters - 9
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon - 3*
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Doomsday Ark
Doomsday Ark
3x Heavy Destroyer
Monolith
Tesseract Ark
Two Tesla Cannons
Selections: 2x Tesla Cannon
Transcendent C'tan

Flyer
Doom Scythe - 4*
Night Scythe - 4*


Dedicated Transport
Ghost Ark - 3*

Lord of War
Gauss Pylon
Obelisk

* - This unit is magnetized so can be either model e.g. Doomscythe or Nightscythe
 
   
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Jackson, TN

Odrankt wrote:
Well that changes everything... Thank you for the information.

He can still Deepstrike the FO with the Overlord via the Veil of Darkness so the unit can still work even if its limited now.


Has to join them after deployment, then Veil.
   
 
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