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2017/06/02 06:59:39
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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Assuming Renegades can have the same pair of guns
Super Heavy detachment
Dual Avenger Gat Knight 514
Dual Avenger Gat Knight 514
Dual Avenger Gat Knight 514
Gallant 389
Total=1931
If Renegades can not take same pair of guns then I will take my chances with 5 Gallants
Supa Eavy D Tachment
Gallant, Meltagun 402
Gallant, Meltagun 402
Gallant, Meltagun 402
Gallant, Meltagun 402
Gallant 389
Man I used to remember fitting 5 different Knights under 2000k. Now I can only fit the Gallants
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2017/06/02 07:33:17
Subject: Re:[2000] - Renegade Knight
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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You can indeed have double weapons. I would give the Gallant a Stormspear Rocket Pod just so he has some effective shooting. It is only 45 pts.
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 5250 pts
 3850 pts
Deathwatch: 1500 pts
Imperial Knights: 375 pts
30K  2500 pts |
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2017/06/02 07:54:50
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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Why not more distributed firepower?
K1: thermal / gatler
K2: thermal / gatler
K3: bCannon/gatler
K4: thermal/fist
No points for carapace or melta.
320 76 95 17 4 512
320 76 95 17 4 512
320 100 4 95 17 4 540
320 76 35 4 430
1999 total
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2017/06/02 12:29:07
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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 CadianGateTroll wrote:Assuming Renegades can have the same pair of guns
Super Heavy detachment
Dual Avenger Gat Knight 514
Dual Avenger Gat Knight 514
Dual Avenger Gat Knight 514
Gallant 389
Total=1931
Points are off. You forgot to pay for your Heavy Flamers on the dual Avenger Knights. So, each one is 548. Not particularly appealing at that cost, honestly. Having a few thermal cannons will help neutralize tanks. Gallant strikes me as a waste overall, as it pays for two CCWs that don't really have a benefit - except it is a cheap Knight, but that isn't really that useful.
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2017/06/02 15:32:10
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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aye you are rite about the hvy flamers
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2017/06/02 17:51:21
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Arashen, Segmentum Pacificus
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Well this looks like a pain to face... I'm trying to wrap my mind around how to deal with superheavies en masse like that. Fearesome stuff
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I saw with eyes then young, and this is my testament.
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2017/06/02 19:42:59
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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Everything can wound on a 6s. It will be really easy.
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2017/06/02 19:52:20
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Arashen, Segmentum Pacificus
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Hurricane Bolters it is then
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I saw with eyes then young, and this is my testament.
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2017/06/03 03:58:27
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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Yeah, more dakka
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2017/06/03 05:54:52
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Arashen, Segmentum Pacificus
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More dakka is always a good option
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I saw with eyes then young, and this is my testament.
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2017/06/03 06:15:42
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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How many hurricane bolters can you spam in 2000pts?
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2017/06/03 06:16:26
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Arashen, Segmentum Pacificus
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I think plenty? I'm envisioning lots of Storm Ravens and Crusaders.
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I saw with eyes then young, and this is my testament.
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2017/06/03 15:43:00
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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 Aetare wrote:
I think plenty? I'm envisioning lots of Storm Ravens and Crusaders.
So... Not many. Crusaders are like 350 a pop right? Stormravens like 200+?
And you got to get in range. And once you are, Reaper Chainswords may be an issue, depending on how he kits the Knights. Even dual Avengers might be dangerous.
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2017/06/03 23:29:00
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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The more i look at it, perhaps dual avenger gat spam is not the way to go.
These knights can disengage or be disengaged in combat and shoot. Knights as a gun platform is bad compared to tau.
Spam is bad but i just prefer it. Would Paladin spam be the best?
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2017/06/03 23:32:05
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Paladins strike me as kinda bad. RFBC seems weak. Avenger and Thermal with Reapers and Stormspears.
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2017/06/04 01:16:38
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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But the cost is too high to fit 4 IKs
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2017/06/04 05:41:10
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Arashen, Segmentum Pacificus
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Looks fearsome!
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I saw with eyes then young, and this is my testament.
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2017/06/04 09:11:20
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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Lols, you trolling me?
4 IKs will be stupid easy to kill with all the powerfists/claws.
A terminator with a fist will hit 66% and wound 50% and deal d3 wounds.
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2017/06/04 12:57:12
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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You can do 4, just not all of them will have carapace. Automatically Appended Next Post: CadianGateTroll wrote:Lols, you trolling me?
4 IKs will be stupid easy to kill with all the powerfists/claws.
A terminator with a fist will hit 66% and wound 50% and deal d3 wounds.
And a 33% chance the wounds are negated. What's the point?
Four Knights is almost 100 wounds on high toughness models with invulns. The game is too fresh to say something foolish like " Lols, you trolling me?"
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2017/06/04 17:48:33
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Dakka Veteran
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Knigth dont get invul in melee.
Power fists have ap -3 or something to weaken the3+ save
I cant tell if you all are being sarcastic or not.
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2017/06/04 18:04:01
Subject: [2000] - Renegade Knight
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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CadianGateTroll wrote:Knigth dont get invul in melee.
Power fists have ap -3 or something to weaken the3+ save
I cant tell if you all are being sarcastic or not.
You are talking stats in a vacuum though. The power fist has to actually make it there and get the charge. If they deep strike in and fail the charge (likely), they won't be doing much after a full round of shooting and the Knight charging in.
Just because a Power Fist seems good on paper, doesn't mean it is the end-all. Knights have 24 wounds, after all.
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