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2017/06/15 18:22:46
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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 ForceChoke wrote:
does your canoness look like mega man or have astro boy boots? Because the primaris marines do.
I mean... that's highly debatable and even if we assume that's true (jesus, have you ever even seen Astro Boy?) old Space Marines looked like nothing like the new ones, right? /facepalm
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2017/06/15 18:27:43
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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 Purifier wrote: ForceChoke wrote:
does your canoness look like mega man or have astro boy boots? Because the primaris marines do.
I mean... that's highly debatable and even if we assume that's true (jesus, have you ever even seen Astro Boy?) old Space Marines looked like nothing like the new ones, right? /facepalm
lol nice try. The wide leg stance here is not anime influenced. And looks nothing like the primaris marines
this pic does however . The primaris marines are standing in this weird broken horse stance that says I've don't know how people are suppose to stand and come push me over with a slight breez.
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"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you know why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." -Jiddu Krishnamurti world renowned champion of peace. An Indian man who spoke at the UN Peace summit 1985. |
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2017/06/15 18:29:43
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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ForceChoke wrote:
lol nice try. The wide leg stance here is not anime influenced. And looks nothing like the primaris marines
this pic does however
WHAT!? Jesus, I'm inclined to question whether you're blind. Ok, nevermind. You are clearly off your rocks. I'm not touching this anymore.
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2017/06/15 18:30:44
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Purifier wrote: ForceChoke wrote:
lol nice try. The wide leg stance here is not anime influenced. And looks nothing like the primaris marines
this pic does however
WHAT!? Jesus, I'm inclined to question whether you're blind. Ok, nevermind. You are clearly off your rocks. I'm not touching this anymore.
They are completely different styles of art. How am I completely off my rocks.
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FudgeDumper wrote:Maybe we should clarify why anime is drawn the way it is and why its so obnoxious to anyone that does not have an aesthetic sense of a 10 year old? (That is not an insult, many great artists aspired to become children again, including Leonardo Da Vinci).
My guess is that those who draw manga/anime are mostly people who has been sitting in a room their entire life. This is true for most Japanese people (from where the art form originates). Most things they draw breaks the law of nature in one way or another. Its because they have been sitting in a room and not had a lot of contact with real life. Their style is mainly influenced by emotions. A person who rely on emotions would probably find it very attractive, because things like gravity, structure and other tangible concepts are not important to them. But to a person who base their appreciation in the laws that govern us, this style can seem exaggerated and flawed.
Look at Michelangelos paintings, I believe he was an ancient manga painter. He paints his masculine humans with hugely expanded shoulders and torso much like the manga artists of today who either willingly or unwillingly ignore the machinations of nature.
Are you suggesting that the artists accidentally made them look like mega man?
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"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you know why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." -Jiddu Krishnamurti world renowned champion of peace. An Indian man who spoke at the UN Peace summit 1985. |
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2017/06/15 19:02:47
Subject: Re:8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What ever it is, I like it.
The grinning pox-walkers definitely feel like something you might see in an anime - evil dead, as opposed to walking dead.
Although, you know, the flying primaris remind me a lot of the "Sammus" armor used by the Coalition in the Rifts RPG back in the day. But, then again, they were likely anime inspired too. 
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2017/06/15 19:13:47
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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But somehow, you refuse to draw those same little red lines on these legs. Cherry picking to fit your narrative. 
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2017/06/15 19:14:01
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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ForceChoke wrote:
does your canoness look like mega man or have astro boy boots? Because the primaris marines do.
I have a metal Lascannon Long Fang that's posed almost exactly like that, except his gun is level and pointing at the enemy. And this Long Fang definitely has big fat shapeless greaves like that.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2017/06/15 19:17:06
Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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2017/06/15 19:19:29
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Purifier wrote:But somehow, you refuse to draw those same little red lines on these legs. Cherry picking to fit your narrative.
I already told you the style, weight distribution negative space and angle of the legs are different. So I will have to simply just disagree with you. Combine the Sunrise stance and the fact that MOST of the Primaris marines have this wide leg anime stance. With the other blatant anime influences. I am simply going to tell you no I disagree.
Forgive me but the are two distinctly different stances, though similar they are not the same kind of style of art. One appears to be eastern influence and the other seems to be American or European.
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"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you know why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." -Jiddu Krishnamurti world renowned champion of peace. An Indian man who spoke at the UN Peace summit 1985. |
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2017/06/15 19:23:44
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Oh yeah, the wide stance that defines this model. Gotcha.
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2017/06/15 19:27:44
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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It's moving forward in this stance.. compare it to the rest of the box which are standing in this extra wide stance. This pic just had the best view of the boots. If you google giant anime robot boots. You find the image of that robot above it's the third pic.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/06/15 19:29:58
"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you know why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." -Jiddu Krishnamurti world renowned champion of peace. An Indian man who spoke at the UN Peace summit 1985. |
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2017/06/15 19:28:29
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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ForceChoke wrote:
It's moving forward in this stance.. compare it to the rest of the box. This pic just had the best view of the boots. If you google giant anime robot boots a robot with same image with that circle is like the third pic.
So the boots in isolation can be "anime" then. Point proven. The guys I just posted above have anime boots according to your assessment. From the OOOOOOOOLD boxes.
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2017/06/15 19:31:12
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Purifier wrote: ForceChoke wrote:
It's moving forward in this stance.. compare it to the rest of the box. This pic just had the best view of the boots. If you google giant anime robot boots a robot with same image with that circle is like the third pic.
So the boots in isolation can be "anime" then. Point proven. The guys I just posted above have anime boots according to your assessment. From the OOOOOOOOLD boxes.
Lol..... it's more than just the boots
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"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you know why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." -Jiddu Krishnamurti world renowned champion of peace. An Indian man who spoke at the UN Peace summit 1985. |
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2017/06/15 19:34:38
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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If you keep spinning your argument back and forth like this, you'll be able to power a small village if you hook it up to a dynamo.
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2017/06/15 19:36:19
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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ForceChoke wrote: Purifier wrote:But somehow, you refuse to draw those same little red lines on these legs. Cherry picking to fit your narrative.
I already told you the style, weight distribution negative space and angle of the legs are different. So I will have to simply just disagree with you. Combine the Sunrise stance and the fact that MOST of the Primaris marines have this wide leg anime stance. With the other blatant anime influences. I am simply going to tell you no I disagree. Forgive me but the are two distinctly different stances, though similar they are not the same kind of style of art. One appears to be eastern influence and the other seems to be American or European.
One stance is european and the other is eastern? Is this serious?
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2017/06/15 19:37:41
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Purifier wrote:
If you keep spinning your argument back and forth like this, you'll be able to power a small village if you hook it up to a dynamo.
I was not at any point spinning anything. I simply presented new pictures as evidence for what I have been trying to say all along.
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"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you know why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." -Jiddu Krishnamurti world renowned champion of peace. An Indian man who spoke at the UN Peace summit 1985. |
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2017/06/15 19:40:10
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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ForceChoke wrote: Purifier wrote:
If you keep spinning your argument back and forth like this, you'll be able to power a small village if you hook it up to a dynamo.
I was not at any point spinning anything. I simply presented new pictures as evidence for what I have been trying to say all along.
So are oversized boots and shinplates anime inspired or not?
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2017/06/15 19:40:34
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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 Insectum7 wrote: ForceChoke wrote: Purifier wrote:But somehow, you refuse to draw those same little red lines on these legs. Cherry picking to fit your narrative.
I already told you the style, weight distribution negative space and angle of the legs are different. So I will have to simply just disagree with you. Combine the Sunrise stance and the fact that MOST of the Primaris marines have this wide leg anime stance. With the other blatant anime influences. I am simply going to tell you no I disagree.
Forgive me but the are two distinctly different stances, though similar they are not the same kind of style of art. One appears to be eastern influence and the other seems to be American or European.
One stance is european and the other is eastern? Is this serious?
Hey man I didn't hold a gun to each sculptors head and ask them to do the sunrise stance on the new primaries marines. The guy must really love gundam. He probably drew loads of anime.
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"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you know why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." -Jiddu Krishnamurti world renowned champion of peace. An Indian man who spoke at the UN Peace summit 1985. |
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2017/06/15 19:41:53
Subject: Re:8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Too bad I don't own a Riptide . There's some real "Anime Influence".
I think this sort of "cartoon" aesthetic has been a part of 40k since the beginning.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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2017/06/15 19:44:36
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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 A Town Called Malus wrote: ForceChoke wrote: Purifier wrote:
If you keep spinning your argument back and forth like this, you'll be able to power a small village if you hook it up to a dynamo.
I was not at any point spinning anything. I simply presented new pictures as evidence for what I have been trying to say all along.
So are oversized boots and shinplates anime inspired or not?
You would have to ask the original sculptors. They had limited skills and tool sets at the time. Maybe space marines were originally anime inspired. It's just a lot more present now in the new space marine box set. There are a lot of reasons why it looks like a fusion style of anime. Automatically Appended Next Post:
wow ... thanks for being insulting.
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"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you know why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." -Jiddu Krishnamurti world renowned champion of peace. An Indian man who spoke at the UN Peace summit 1985. |
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2017/06/15 19:47:00
Subject: 8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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Eh, as someone who has absolutely no interest in anime and who actively avoids it (hell, I was annoyed when Tau came out)... I'm really not seeing its influence here at all.
Yes, the DG are more cartoonish, but I'm definitely not getting the anime vibe that makes me want to vomit.
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2017/06/15 19:47:36
Subject: Re:8th Edition is looking very cartoon/fusian anime
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It is time for this thread to...go away.
Too many people feel that RULE #1 doesn't apply to them and the posts they make.
They are, of course, mistaken.
Thread locked and under review.
Expect some PMs soon - some of you...
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