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If you have 1 model in LoS of a 100 model unit. Can you shoot 108 bullets at him and have the wounds spill over to the unit? I think so


If you have 3 models not on the cover "base" of a 20 model unit. 1 is in range, 2 are out of range of the weapon firing at them, what happens?
I think you have to make saves until the 3 models die(you pick to allocate wounds to them) and only then can you make saves with a +1 for cover

You only get +1 to armour save if unit is FULLY within terrain. One guy is out of terrain, nobody gets +1 to save.

1) All shots are resolved one at a time by RAW. Your opponent could be silly and keep allocating hits to models out of LOS and get his whole unit wiped, but more likely he'll pull the one guy from the front first and all your other shots are wasted.

tneva82 wrote:
You only get +1 to armour save if unit is FULLY within terrain. One guy is out of terrain, nobody gets +1 to save.

But you're allocating 1 wound at a time. So you can pick those 3 to die and then get the save since the unit is FULLY within the terrain, no?

 rvd1ofakind wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
You only get +1 to armour save if unit is FULLY within terrain. One guy is out of terrain, nobody gets +1 to save.

But you're allocating 1 wound at a time. So you can pick those 3 to die and then get the save since the unit is FULLY within the terrain, no?

Yeah, seems so. So most of the time we'll see guys in the open die before guys in cover, which does make sense.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
1) All shots are resolved one at a time by RAW. Your opponent could be silly and keep allocating hits to models out of LOS and get his whole unit wiped, but more likely he'll pull the one guy from the front first and all your other shots are wasted.

However the fast dice rule only has requirements of: same BS/WS, str, AP, target unit... this is confusing, I've been getting different answers from different people.

And the allocate wounds part doesn't say anything about range or LoS

AND the resolve attacks step has no range/los mentioned what so ever

Do I understand this correctly:

if there is only 1 model of my squad visible and I recieve 50 wounds I can allocate 1 wound to the visible model and all other wounds are lost?

Aeri wrote:
Do I understand this correctly:

if there is only 1 model of my squad visible and I recieve 50 wounds I can allocate 1 wound to the visible model and all other wounds are lost?

I really don't think so.

Aeri wrote:
Do I understand this correctly:

if there is only 1 model of my squad visible and I recieve 50 wounds I can allocate 1 wound to the visible model and all other wounds are lost?

No. The opposite.

Only 1 model has to be in range and los for an entire squad to get wiped. Shooting drops los and range as soon as the shooting starts.

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

Aeri wrote:
Do I understand this correctly:

if there is only 1 model of my squad visible and I recieve 50 wounds I can allocate 1 wound to the visible model and all other wounds are lost?

No. The opposite.

Only 1 model has to be in range and los for an entire squad to get wiped. Shooting drops los and range as soon as the shooting starts.

Exactly. Range and LoS matter only in ONE part of shooting. Target picking BEFORE rolling dice. if the shooting MODEL can reach his target MODEL. Then the shooting MODEL can shoot at the target UNIT. The other shooting MODELS, that can't each the same MODEL, can't shoot at that UNIT. They can ofc shoot at others instead due to splifire




The warhammer discord pretty much agreed on both my rulings

 rvd1ofakind wrote:

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

Aeri wrote:
Do I understand this correctly:

if there is only 1 model of my squad visible and I recieve 50 wounds I can allocate 1 wound to the visible model and all other wounds are lost?

No. The opposite.

Only 1 model has to be in range and los for an entire squad to get wiped. Shooting drops los and range as soon as the shooting starts.

Exactly. Range and LoS matter only in ONE part of shooting. Target picking BEFORE rolling dice. if the shooting MODEL can reach his target MODEL. Then the shooting MODEL can shoot at the target UNIT. The other shooting MODELS, that can't each the same MODEL, can't shoot at that UNIT. They can ofc shoot at others instead due to splifire




The warhammer discord pretty much agreed on both my rulings

You are actually wrong, as leaked rules state exactly that if ONE MODEL form the unit sees at least ONE MODEL of ENEMY UNIT, all of YOUR MODELS can shoot into all of ENEMY MODELS (but enemy allocates wounds). Even if they dont see other models. Shooting is per-unit now, and not per-model.

shuul wrote:

 rvd1ofakind wrote:

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

Aeri wrote:
Do I understand this correctly:

if there is only 1 model of my squad visible and I recieve 50 wounds I can allocate 1 wound to the visible model and all other wounds are lost?

No. The opposite.

Only 1 model has to be in range and los for an entire squad to get wiped. Shooting drops los and range as soon as the shooting starts.

Exactly. Range and LoS matter only in ONE part of shooting. Target picking BEFORE rolling dice. if the shooting MODEL can reach his target MODEL. Then the shooting MODEL can shoot at the target UNIT. The other shooting MODELS, that can't each the same MODEL, can't shoot at that UNIT. They can ofc shoot at others instead due to splifire




The warhammer discord pretty much agreed on both my rulings

You are actually wrong, as leaked rules state exactly that if ONE MODEL form the unit sees at least ONE MODEL of ENEMY UNIT, all of YOUR MODELS can shoot into all of ENEMY MODELS (but enemy allocates wounds). Even if they dont see other models. Shooting is per-unit now, and not per-model.

"2 posts" and already spreading misinformation. Re-read the choose targets step. "a model from that unit must be within the Range of the weapon being used and be visible to the shooting MODEL" which indicates that you select the targets per model(which you do) and per model's weapon. Therefor some can be out of range/los