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They have the following at a very low pts per model cost:

4++ save
Smite on a 5+ roll
10 wounds for 20pts
Objective Secured

Take 300 of these and tarpit/clog the board to the extreme.

I am reading this correctly, am I right? Seems a bit too good to be true

 Vache Glace wrote:
They have the following at a very low pts per model cost:

4++ save
Smite on a 5+ roll
10 wounds for 20pts
Objective Secured

Take 300 of these and tarpit/clog the board to the extreme.

I am reading this correctly, am I right? Seems a bit too good to be true

The wounds and save are great, but the damage output is pitiful, with a 1 in 3 chance of even doing anything and even then only a few wounds.

I mean you could conscript spam them, but I have no idea why you would.

@changemod; their damage output for their durability and price is nuts.

300 of them is 600 points; barely 1/4th of your standard 2000 points list.

The enemy will drown in flame and invulnerable saves - and that's before the rest of your army gets to them.

@Vache Glace; yeah, they seem nuts this edition. When serious competitive lists start to pop up, I feel this units will be a big part of them.

fe40k wrote:
@changemod; their damage output for their durability and price is nuts.

It's a 1 in 3 chance for a unit to do D3 wounds, or D3 wounds per 60 points. Situationally that's not awful against things with good invulnerable saves but even then that D3 is a one in three chance of killing one Necron wraith.

Conscripts have great damage output in large blobs, brimstone horrors are just infuriatingly hard to kill.

 Vache Glace wrote:
They have the following at a very low pts per model cost:

4++ save
Smite on a 5+ roll
10 wounds for 20pts
Objective Secured

Take 300 of these and tarpit/clog the board to the extreme.

I am reading this correctly, am I right? Seems a bit too good to be true

They have T2, Lasguns wound them on 3s, bolters wound them on 2s. They also have no way to mitigate their leadership except for a 200 point model. A 10 man squad of SM rapid firing will put enough wounds to force a morale test that can be failed, and that's without support. Not to mention every time you cast a spell with them you lose 1 model. They are not as good as you think.

 Thousand-Son-Sorcerer wrote:

 Vache Glace wrote:
They have the following at a very low pts per model cost:

4++ save
Smite on a 5+ roll
10 wounds for 20pts
Objective Secured

Take 300 of these and tarpit/clog the board to the extreme.

I am reading this correctly, am I right? Seems a bit too good to be true

They have T2, Lasguns wound them on 3s, bolters wound them on 2s. They also have no way to mitigate their leadership except for a 200 point model. A 10 man squad of SM rapid firing will put enough wounds to force a morale test that can be failed, and that's without support. Not to mention every time you cast a spell with them you lose 1 model. They are not as good as you think.

Actually, they're still T3. Ten rapid-firing marines get 20 shots, 13.3 hits, 8.4 wounds, 4.2 unsaved and maybe one dead horror to morale. Not that great a showing from the marines...

As for suffering a Wound, if I were interested in min-maxing these guys, I would put a single Blue Horror in there as the model from which Smite is cast. 3 more points to prevent losing models over time.

I admit, a single squad isn't great, but it's a fantastic way to flood the field and claim objectives while still doing something. The biggest issue will be just getting enough Troop slots to field them all...