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Hi all

So with 8th around the corner im going full on with a nice list to dedicate the age of the primaris marines oh and one apothecary this is just the contents of the dark imperium box + some single unit purchases off ebay for now but it will change as more releases come out (plus i cant really complain for £75.00

Hq - Captain in Gravis Armor 137pts

Elites - Primaris Ancient 69pts
Apothecary 55pts

Troops - 5 intercessors 100pts
5 intercessors 100pts

Fast attack - 3 inceptors 225pts
3 inceptors 225pts

Heavy support - 5 Hellblasters 190pts
5 Hellblasters 190pts
5 Hellblasters 190pts

Total = 1481pts

Plan for this is quite simple all the single units stick with the hellblasters to supercharge as much as possible with out causing death by rolling one using the apothecary to res any dead hellblasters where needed and the primaris ancient to allow any slain hell blasters to shoot again if they do perhaps die on that sweet 4+ from his banner

Inceptors will jump down from deepstrike and either flank or clear smaller units with there supierior bolter fire from their assault bolters and try snipe out characters in the back lines and the intercessors to contest and or capture objectives while trying to gun down smaller weaker units

it not competitive but it not rubbish either

Not going to use any Lieutenants? At least one with the Hellblasters?

 Luciferian wrote:
Not going to use any Lieutenants? At least one with the Hellblasters?

It was either an apothecary or a lieutenant so was a tough choice I will probs try both but just all theory atm

I am only seeing 996 points ... are you running a lot more intercessors? I am also going to make a primaris army but by swapping out the death guard plastic for more primaris from the starter set. Intercessors are efficient for their points if they are in cover or are within that 15" rapid range. I would put more of those 100 point squads in there.

Helblasters are really dodgy for their points. They have to be in cover or they are just bait. The apothecary on average gets up 2 guys over the course of a 5 turn game, maybe 3 with CP. I am considering getting a bunker and putting 5 inside and 5 on top.

Inceptors ... oh man ... I think they have an error in their points they are so overpriced it is a joke. Inceptors are 8 power in the book, which should translate to about ~160 points. But they are 225 in points! That is a massive discrepancy that makes them unusable in points based games.

I defo agree Inceptors are a big issue but 18 shots from 3 guys is a lot plus being able to deep strike can be quite important etc

I love hellblasters good range rend and damage on both modes of fire plus the apothecary ancient combo is nice and the captain should stop a. Majority of deaths etc :p

It is defo 1500pts I think you reading it wrong haha

I disagree that Inceptors are overcosted. 18 heavy bolter shots, plus their durability and deep strike rules, means they should be able to reliably deal out more pain than they take against most other infantry units.

 Luciferian wrote:
I disagree that Inceptors are overcosted. 18 heavy bolter shots, plus their durability and deep strike rules, means they should be able to reliably deal out more pain than they take against most other infantry units.

True enough, but they are not 75ppm good. I think it is an error. Hopefully, GW has a FAQ on release to help any issues that cropped up and didn't make the release window.

I agree that they look kind of cool, but are in no way 75ppm dudes. They do need a cut in their cost.

I'm a bit nervous about the hellblasters too if honest. They are really nasty, but plasma is available on vastly cheaper platforms. It does help that all the models have plasma guns, to be fair, and they shouldn't blow themselves up all that often.

I'm interested in a primaris army but I think it's a bit too soon to start it. I imagine they'll get a bunch of new releases soon (we've already seen the repulsor and dread) which might make the army a bit more viable. Still, the stuff out of the core set does look like it would be a good start point. We might see the new stuff quite soon, I expect.

Mandragola wrote:
I agree that they look kind of cool, but are in no way 75ppm dudes. They do need a cut in their cost.

I'm a bit nervous about the hellblasters too if honest. They are really nasty, but plasma is available on vastly cheaper platforms. It does help that all the models have plasma guns, to be fair, and they shouldn't blow themselves up all that often.

I'm interested in a primaris army but I think it's a bit too soon to start it. I imagine they'll get a bunch of new releases soon (we've already seen the repulsor and dread) which might make the army a bit more viable. Still, the stuff out of the core set does look like it would be a good start point. We might see the new stuff quite soon, I expect.

Defo agree they are worth maybe 60 points each etc

And doe the Hellblasters the difference is there rend they are - 4 where as other plasma weapons are - 3

But as stated I'll add to them when more things come out :p

In my opinion, all these primaris guys are stupidly overpriced for what they do. They all have less firepower for point than any squat marine unit. And as a bonus they don't have any transport options in an edition where transports are really powerful and durable. The only way I see primaris working is if you have guilliman standing in the middle of them and run up the board to rapid fire range. With guilliman and rapid fire range the primaris would have enough firepower to actually hurt things.

Wulfey wrote:
In my opinion, all these primaris guys are stupidly overpriced for what they do. They all have less firepower for point than any squat marine unit. And as a bonus they don't have any transport options in an edition where transports are really powerful and durable. The only way I see primaris working is if you have guilliman standing in the middle of them and run up the board to rapid fire range. With guilliman and rapid fire range the primaris would have enough firepower to actually hurt things.

Tbh the only unit over priced is the Inceptors but other then then there great with all the guns are 30in range and rapid fire there also 2 wounds each and any marine with guillman is good this edition is about strategy and fun :3

That's a pretty slow list.

Like... really slow.

Not sure how it'll hold out against a lot of lists.

Wulfey wrote:
In my opinion, all these primaris guys are stupidly overpriced for what they do. They all have less firepower for point than any squat marine unit. And as a bonus they don't have any transport options in an edition where transports are really powerful and durable. The only way I see primaris working is if you have guilliman standing in the middle of them and run up the board to rapid fire range. With guilliman and rapid fire range the primaris would have enough firepower to actually hurt things.

Disagree - hellblasters are the best shooting unit in the codex IMO. As pointed out with guliman - they become amazing. Then also figure that you will have an ancient around also. Intercestors need some shooting options - I'm sure they will get them in a new codex at some point. The bolt rifle isnt terrible though. If I was actually going to take troops in a marine army I think I would be chosing intercestors.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
That's a pretty slow list.

Like... really slow.

Not sure how it'll hold out against a lot of list.

It just a cheap friendly list it does a bit of everything and it not super competitive and it's fluffy :p so it all good the he'll blasters offer good shooting all round the intercessors are mandatory and Inceptors cause they can deepstrike Nd flank with heavy bolters xD and I don't think it that slow haha


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 Xenomancers wrote:

Wulfey wrote:
In my opinion, all these primaris guys are stupidly overpriced for what they do. They all have less firepower for point than any squat marine unit. And as a bonus they don't have any transport options in an edition where transports are really powerful and durable. The only way I see primaris working is if you have guilliman standing in the middle of them and run up the board to rapid fire range. With guilliman and rapid fire range the primaris would have enough firepower to actually hurt things.

Disagree - hellblasters are the best shooting unit in the codex IMO. As pointed out with guliman - they become amazing. Then also figure that you will have an ancient around also. Intercestors need some shooting options - I'm sure they will get them in a new codex at some point. The bolt rifle isnt terrible though. If I was actually going to take troops in a marine army I think I would be chosing intercestors.

yay someone who agrees with me I think hellblasters are great too plus as you said comboing with a captain of the or guilliman etc and a lieutenant I have points to switch the apothecary to a lieutenant so will always have an ancient as well cause it is a fantastic choice for what he does