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 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Dr.Duck wrote:
Assuming that points costs were "supposed" to be standard across renegade and imperial questor selections. I think im seeing a price drop in RFBCs and AGCs in the mechanicus book:

AGC: 95
RFBC: 100
TC: 76

Same as before.

Oh im not factoring in the stub or HF

Im actually really digging the new thermal cannon. Hopefully the other index get FAQed with the new stats

Thinking :
2x Chainsword/AGC
2x Double Thermal

Each knight is then pretty dope against armor and bodies when shooting or in CQC

Chaos can take knights that are completely free in their loadout. How does 2 battle canons sound?

2d6 shots should average out to something nice most turns.

snottlebocket wrote:
Chaos can take knights that are completely free in their loadout. How does 2 battle canons sound?

2d6 shots should average out to something nice most turns.

Avenger > RFBC

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

snottlebocket wrote:
Chaos can take knights that are completely free in their loadout. How does 2 battle canons sound?

2d6 shots should average out to something nice most turns.

Avenger > RFBC

I'm not sure that's still true if you factor in command re-rolls for the 2D6.

Audustum wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

snottlebocket wrote:
Chaos can take knights that are completely free in their loadout. How does 2 battle canons sound?

2d6 shots should average out to something nice most turns.

Avenger > RFBC

I'm not sure that's still true if you factor in command re-rolls for the 2D6.

Dual Avengers is 24 shots consistently. S6 means it won't struggle to wound most stuff, though it probably needs 5's to hurt tanks and stuff. It is more consistent damage output though, at 2dmg per shot vs d3.

The dual RFBC is on average 14 shots at S8, but has a wide swing (that tops out at 24 shots, which is what the Avenger brings always). However, being S8 means wounding is easier, plus it has a range advantage.

Having to chew through CP on non-strategems is not something I like to factor in.

Ultimately, I would take the 24 shots over the random ones. But really, at this point, I think the Avenger+TC+Stormspear is the best overall combo.

 Dr.Duck wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Dr.Duck wrote:
Assuming that points costs were "supposed" to be standard across renegade and imperial questor selections. I think im seeing a price drop in RFBCs and AGCs in the mechanicus book:

AGC: 95
RFBC: 100
TC: 76

Same as before.

Oh im not factoring in the stub or HF

Im actually really digging the new thermal cannon. Hopefully the other index get FAQed with the new stats

Thinking :
2x Chainsword/AGC
2x Double Thermal

Each knight is then pretty dope against armor and bodies when shooting or in CQC

I certainly hope so, I'd hate to have to buy a codex of an army I don't play just to use my lone Knight with TC effectively

Ya Im not to big a fan of the RFBC considering how fast knights move and them only being an additional 2 strength greater than the AGC. knights already hit like the battle cannon anyway in combat so I dotn see a huge need for them.

The new thermal cannon absolutely destroys armor over the BC and was much needed to fill out the weapon spectrum for knights.

So what are people running these days in a competitive non-renegade Knight list at 2k?

 D6Damager wrote:
So what are people running these days in a competitive non-renegade Knight list at 2k?

They aren't. Knights are low tier due to a lack of durability-to-cost. They need a point adjustment - to be around 375-400ish - to even be remotely competitive.

Knights arnt competitive funzy only

But optimaly either lone crusader in another army (nerf the army but can still work)

Or Warden+ Crusader+ something with chainsword (to take the relic and 6+FNP warlord trait.

Usually accompanied by AdM and/or AM for the repairs+ cheap CP/ objective holding

Never take 2 as it makes your army so weak its not worth playing or 4 as you will lose from not being able to hold objectives