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I thought that some of you that haven't seen the Primaris Marines and Deathguard Captain in real person. It's hard to get a grasp of the size of the new models, especially the new Primaris, without normal marines as a reference next to them. Enjoy

Actually that Chaos Lord don't make Kranon look small!

Thats nice because Kranon the Relentless is the leader of my chaos army, and my favourite chaos model of all time

Could yo put pics of the Death Guard alongside the Dark Vengeance Chaos Chosen! Thanks!

This is the reason why I can't field my old Dark Angels next to Rob G and the Primaris. The scale is just so wrong between the two.

However Kranon is looking pretty good next to the big nurgle lord.

I wont be buying the new marines until it is a fully functional army. They just look wrong next to regular marines. And with the current snap-fit models I am already tired of the 5 poses availiable.

As requested here's a picture of a chosen vs a death guard. I also threw in a pox walker vs a cultist. Fair warning to anyone that puts that death guard model together. The plastic on the grenade is weak.

Thats extrange. The Lord of Contagion is smaller than I expected, but the normal Deathguards are bigger.

Poxwalkers look to have a proper human size, good.

Thanks for the pics!

Do we expect updated rules for Primaris Marines once the proper codex is released? Or are intercessor and the like going to be without upgrade options?

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Do we expect updated rules for Primaris Marines once the proper codex is released? Or are intercessor and the like going to be without upgrade options?

If the AoS starter is any indication... they will gain options for equipement once the multipart kit is released.

Jesus those minis, especially the Death Guard, are so stupidly big. That's not even scale creep, it's scale jump, like the games not even intended to be heroic 28mm scale anymore.

The DV Chosen were a nice flavor of "big", and it's so glaring seeing them dwarfed by the Death Guard.

 Galas wrote:
Thats extrange. The Lord of Contagion is smaller than I expected, but the normal Deathguards are bigger.

Poxwalkers look to have a proper human size, good.

Thanks for the pics!

Yeah, the sizing on the plague marines caught me a bit off guard. I'm not too used to Cataphractii armor, but I thought the lord of contagion would be eye level with the gravis captain.
I also agree wtih those saying DV chosen looks awesome. I'm planning on kitbashing combi-weapons on a squad of them.

Take the bases into consideration. The 32mm base is significantly taller then the 25mm base, making the plague marine seems even bigger.

 Galas wrote:
Actually that Chaos Lord don't make Kranon look small!

Thats nice because Kranon the Relentless is the leader of my chaos army, and my favourite chaos model of all time

Could yo put pics of the Death Guard alongside the Dark Vengeance Chaos Chosen! Thanks!

I do kinda hope they release Kranon as a sepoerate mini now that DV is no longer avaliable

As much as they pushed the Crimson Slaughter last edition, I wouldn't mind seeing character rules from Kranon. Throw them in with chapter tactics whenever we get a Codex as well.

Those Plague Marines look like they are the size of Terminators.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Actually that Chaos Lord don't make Kranon look small!

Thats nice because Kranon the Relentless is the leader of my chaos army, and my favourite chaos model of all time

Could yo put pics of the Death Guard alongside the Dark Vengeance Chaos Chosen! Thanks!

I do kinda hope they release Kranon as a sepoerate mini now that DV is no longer avaliable

That models deserves to live, yes.

Is to good to be just a Starter Box miniature! (Plus, he is a very good generic Chaos Lord in power armour)

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Jesus those minis, especially the Death Guard, are so stupidly big. That's not even scale creep, it's scale jump, like the games not even intended to be heroic 28mm scale anymore.

The DV Chosen were a nice flavor of "big", and it's so glaring seeing them dwarfed by the Death Guard.

It will be interesting to see if scale changes occur with any new necron or eldar or xenos races. It might become really jarring to see these units all on the table together. I really hope they don't mess with the scale of the non marine types though. I understand coming out with a few larger greenskins...because that's easier to explain away.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Jesus those minis, especially the Death Guard, are so stupidly big. That's not even scale creep, it's scale jump, like the games not even intended to be heroic 28mm scale anymore.

The DV Chosen were a nice flavor of "big", and it's so glaring seeing them dwarfed by the Death Guard.

Look again at the pox walkers - not much larger than cultists. There is a scale jump, but it's for marines specifically. They were always supposed to be 8+ feet tall in the fluff, but the models never reflected that. Now we're going to true scale. The whole 'primaris' fluff concept is just to smooth over the transition so existing players don't feel like their armies are being invalidated overnight. Mark my words, five years from now the primaris stuff will hardly be mentioned, just a foot note in the fluff, and all marine models will just be bigger compared to regular human dudes. The same will be done for chaos, either getting their own version of 'primaris' (maybe tying into Bile narratively), or else GW will decide they can just get away with upping the scale on chaos guys without any significant narrative reason for it, as with the new death guard models, hand waving it as 'the warping power of chaos' or whatever.

The downside of this is armies that will eventually look pretty painfully out of date (though there's always a charm for that, I always smile when I see an orc army running the cardboard dreadnought, or nid armies running the weedy old termagaunts & weird-but-cool original plastic nid warriors, or space marine armies of beakies). The up sides are true scale marines for everyone, and that the fluff will settle and not really suffer any major long term disruption from the transition.

 Malisteen wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Jesus those minis, especially the Death Guard, are so stupidly big. That's not even scale creep, it's scale jump, like the games not even intended to be heroic 28mm scale anymore.

The DV Chosen were a nice flavor of "big", and it's so glaring seeing them dwarfed by the Death Guard.

Look again at the pox walkers - not much larger than cultists. There is a scale jump, but it's for marines specifically. They were always supposed to be 8+ feet tall in the fluff, but the models never reflected that. Now we're going to true scale. The whole 'primaris' fluff concept is just to smooth over the transition so existing players don't feel like their armies are being invalidated overnight. Mark my words, five years from now the primaris stuff will hardly be mentioned, just a foot note in the fluff, and all marine models will just be bigger compared to regular human dudes. The same will be done for chaos, either getting their own version of 'primaris' (maybe tying into Bile narratively), or else GW will decide they can just get away with upping the scale on chaos guys without any significant narrative reason for it, as with the new death guard models, hand waving it as 'the warping power of chaos' or whatever.

The downside of this is armies that will eventually look pretty painfully out of date (though there's always a charm for that, I always smile when I see an orc army running the cardboard dreadnought, or nid armies running the weedy old termagaunts & weird-but-cool original plastic nid warriors, or space marine armies of beakies). The up sides are true scale marines for everyone, and that the fluff will settle and not really suffer any major long term disruption from the transition.

You don't really believe that do you? Gamers are an obsessive lot and would never fall for that. Just look for everything new for Marines to be Primaris based. More and more people will make the switch but those old Marines are not going anywhere.