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Quite impressed with Wraith Constructs after a test game, and want to round the list out to a TAC 1500. Thoughts appreciated

Spiritseer
5x Wraithguard w/ D-Scythes
5x Wraithguard w/ D-Scythes
Wraithlord w/ 2x Shuriken Cannon, 2x Flamer, Sword
Wraithlord w/ 2x Shuriken Cannon, 2x Flamer, Sword
Wraithlord w/ 2x Shuriken Cannon, 2x Flamer, Sword
Wave Serpent w/ Twin Aeldari Missile Launchers, Shuriken Cannon, Crystal Targeting Matrix
Wave Serpent w/ Twin Aeldari Missile Launchers, Shuriken Cannon, Crystal Targeting Matrix
Hemlock Wraithfigher w/ 2x Heavy D-Scythes

I found in former editions that shuriken cannons are too short ranged for the my kind of play. I always tried to approach the enemy by moving my Serpents for 12'' by constantly shooting him. This has worked fine with scatter lasers but will not work with 24'' weapons.
Therefore, I think that this list will not really work.

 wuestenfux wrote:
I found in former editions that shuriken cannons are too short ranged for the my kind of play. I always tried to approach the enemy by moving my Serpents for 12'' by constantly shooting him. This has worked fine with scatter lasers but will not work with 24'' weapons.
Therefore, I think that this list will not really work.

The difference between assault and heavy now affects pretty much everyone. I think it make the shuricannon very competitive over the scatt lasers. Range shouldn't be too much of an issue, because the wave serpents will want to get close anyway, because they transport the wrathguard, and the lords might want to get some use out of their flamers and swords too.

I think you should definitely go Ynnari if you use that list. The spiritseer is the only one with battle focus (and doesn't really care about it), but the wraithguards would benefit from SftD quite a lot given the fact that they ride transports (you can soulburst when your transport gets destroyed) and have 8" range guns.

 wuestenfux wrote:
I found in former editions that shuriken cannons are too short ranged for the my kind of play. I always tried to approach the enemy by moving my Serpents for 12'' by constantly shooting him. This has worked fine with scatter lasers but will not work with 24'' weapons.
Therefore, I think that this list will not really work.

Shuriken Cannons are fine, especially on the Wraithlords. You'll want to get them into midfield at least to punch/flame things so a move of 9-14" + 24" range of the gun is fine.
The Serpents have Twin Missile Launchers with the underslung Shuriken Cannon ('cos, why not?)

@fresus. Ynnari kind of passed me by as I shelved my Eldar during 6th/7th. Will definitely look into it.

fresus wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
I found in former editions that shuriken cannons are too short ranged for the my kind of play. I always tried to approach the enemy by moving my Serpents for 12'' by constantly shooting him. This has worked fine with scatter lasers but will not work with 24'' weapons.
Therefore, I think that this list will not really work.

The difference between assault and heavy now affects pretty much everyone. I think it make the shuricannon very competitive over the scatt lasers. Range shouldn't be too much of an issue, because the wave serpents will want to get close anyway, because they transport the wrathguard, and the lords might want to get some use out of their flamers and swords too.

I think you should definitely go Ynnari if you use that list. The spiritseer is the only one with battle focus (and doesn't really care about it), but the wraithguards would benefit from SftD quite a lot given the fact that they ride transports (you can soulburst when your transport gets destroyed) and have 8" range guns.

Actually with WG if you are close enough after your vehicle is destroyed, it is better to try and assault. Reason is that if you are withing 8 inches and you shoot, you might take a unit out but you will be fired at, but if you assault, you wont be shoot at anymore, you will hold CC and on your turn you will fall back and shoot again. (Of course if the opponent has something very nasty in CC don't do this)

I think it depends on who/what your facing.

Eg in the test game I played, I found it was better to let the Wraithguard get assaulted when facing Wulfen.

Walk up, flame the Wulfen, overwatch when charged. Fall back in my turn, flame, overwatch etc.
The Wraithguard were quite resilient in CC and their Wraithbone fists are Power Fist-lite.