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I need to know when these models were first produced. I believe they were made in metal before the transition over to finecast

I still have the box of metal ones, it says 2007 on the copyright.

Not sure on their first release, but yes they were originally in die cast metal. I want to say they came out with 5th or 6th edition but I could be wrong.

damn, I was hoping they would be earlier than that. thank you both for your help

Bottom ones came out with Medusa V (iirc) in 2005.

Top ones came out with the 5th ed SM codex 2008ish.

Ruin wrote:
Bottom ones came out with Medusa V (iirc) in 2005.

Top ones came out with the 5th ed SM codex 2008ish.

Hmm ok I assumed they were both the same, but I have both, original metal boxes at home, I'll check later...

The veterans on the bottom came out in November 2004 with the release of the 4th edition Space Marine codex.

The Veterans are in the 2005-2006 US Complete Catalog & Hobby Reference, but not the 2004/5.

Top ones were October 2008 with the 5th edition codex.

beast_gts wrote:
The Veterans are in the 2005-2006 US Complete Catalog & Hobby Reference, but not the 2004/5.

Spoiler:

It's November 2004: straight from UK White Dwarf 299

Eligius wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
The Veterans are in the 2005-2006 US Complete Catalog & Hobby Reference, but not the 2004/5.

Spoiler:

It's November 2004: straight from UK White Dwarf 299

Awesome, thank you. I think they are a bit too new to use in my 3rd ed style army though :/

3rd ed style army will mean predominantly metal - with the exception of the first plastic real multi-part tactical kit which came out with the 3rd edition main box (despite the box contents showing older metal models, etc.).

 Elbows wrote:
3rd ed style army will mean predominantly metal - with the exception of the first plastic real multi-part tactical kit which came out with the 3rd edition main box (despite the box contents showing older metal models, etc.).

I don't mind using the finecast versions of the old metal characters, since they are easier to obtain and work with. and they are the same sculpts afterall