Soulburner Petards are Insane

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**Lancelot185**

Just stumbled upon these weapons for decimators (which can take 2). They do 2d3 shots each, and each hit does an automatic mortal wound. I run two decimators, both with 2 soulburners for a total of 8d3 shots, hitting on 3+ rerolling 1's (chaos lord), and do mortal wounds. Per turn, they have the potential to output 24 mortal wounds on a fast platform that's also fairly good in melee. These things are the bane of any tough unit with 2+ armour or even (if it's possible) 2+ invuln, they'll just tear straight through. I don't know what the other indexes have to offer, but surely these are top tier weapons?

**DarknessEternal**

They aren't good in melee if you have 2 soulburners, as they no longer have siege claws.

**Lancelot185**

5 s7 attacks at ws3+? I wouldn't want them in melee, but it's nice to know that they aren't completely defenseless should the situation ever arise. And siege claws just cant compare to the amount of unsaveable auto wounds a soulburner can put out.

**Slayer-Fan123**

You said potential. Look at the average mortal wounds done and you'll see they really aren't that bad.

**Lancelot185**

The average for each soulburner is 3 hits, which then hit on 3's and reroll 1's with a chaos lord. So two will hit, and the other has a 50% chance to get rerolled. Even if two hit per burner, that's two guaranteed wounds, whereas any other weapons would then be at the mercy of the enemies saves. So, these could take on the best armoured units around and strip off wounds without a problem.

**DarknessEternal**

Yes, that is is what they are for. It's not such a big deal.

Now kill 100 orks or genestealers with it.

**Gordon Shumway**

DarknessEternal wrote:
Yes, that is is what they are for. It's not such a big deal.

Now kill 100 orks or genestealers with it.

Why wouldn't I us my 6 quad heavy bolter rapiers for that and save the decimator for what it is good at?

**Lancelot185**

I'd actually prefer to use my lascannons for the ork and nid hordes because they're great at crowd control with their single, high strength shot.

Disclaimer: this is sarcasm to highlight how stupid the above comment is.

**Daedalus81**

It does seem a little low cost. The ribaudkin is 70 points, but doesn't have the self damage property. This one is only 30. Then again it is on basically a dreadnought platform, which isn't terribly hard to kill.

Still i'd prefer to see it knocked down to 18" like the ribaudkin and get a point boost.

These things also hit like a wet noodle in combat since S7 is no better than S5 against T4. 10 of my tzaangors warp timed into it's face would tie it up for quite a long time - it can't kill enough on average to get them to battleshock - and they're only 5++.

**mrhappyface**

Can decimators be put in the big drop pods? If so rain hell from the sky! Your two decimators are doing on average:
8*2*28/36 = about 12 mortal wounds which is enough to cripple any elite unit with stupid invulnerable saves.

Are they OP? Maybe. We'll need some play testing to see (since FW certainly didn't do any).

**Galas**

Gordon Shumway wrote:
DarknessEternal wrote:
Yes, that is is what they are for. It's not such a big deal.

Now kill 100 orks or genestealers with it.

Why wouldn't I us my 6 quad heavy bolter rapiers for that and save the decimator for what it is good at?

NO! Thats not how you play this game! Your units should be able to kill everything in the game... ALONE, without buff or support. If not they are useless!

**Lancelot185**

10 of my tzaangors warp timed into it's face would tie it up for quite a long time - it can't kill enough on average to get them to battleshock - and they're only 5++.

I tend to run pretty extensive bubble wraps - 60+ poxwalkers in this edition (not all for the decimators!), so I'm not overly concerned about getting charged, and their 10" movement can help me to redeploy if I feel like they're in bad position (could even use warptime).

Can decimators be put in the big drop pods?

I think that's only reserved for filthy contemptors (and, let's face it, decimators look 10x cooler than those obese slugs).