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Pretty much as the title says; I'd like to know which loyalist chapters (that aren't extremely obscure and/or have very little to no lore) have big "cleanse the impure" attitudes. The Grey Knights don't count.
   
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Black Templars are the most obvious example here.

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Red Scorpions, Minotaurs and some of the more annoying Ultramarines successors like Novamarines. I'd almost say Carchcedons or however it's spelt, Space Sharks, but they're more of a 'cleanse the everything' than anything else.
   
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Black Templars for sure. They are on constant purging crusades for Emperors sake, it's all they do!

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 ncshooter426 wrote:
All chapters should be purged

-Sisters


Definitely not the case, but ok.

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They're also not Space Marines.

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 TapedTempest wrote:
Pretty much as the title says; I'd like to know which loyalist chapters (that aren't extremely obscure and/or have very little to no lore) have big "cleanse the impure" attitudes. The Grey Knights don't count.


All of them? Its kinda hardwired into them as part of training, hypno induction, culture and experience.

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Right. One could easily argue that the ones that aren't like that are exceptions-- Space Wolves, Salamanders, and the like.

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 Melissia wrote:
They're also not Space Marines.


Didn't say they were. They're better


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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 ncshooter426 wrote:
All chapters should be purged

-Sisters


Definitely not the case, but ok.


From the Sisters viewpoint - an Astartes is a mutant and their chapters harbor psychers. Their "brothers" are also the ones that fell to chaos taint. They are, by all measures, barely tolerable in their eyes and would be better off purged by the big I.

Black Templars got the unbreakble zeal going on. Iron Hands like to "fix" the weakness that is flesh...if that counts as cleansing the impure.

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Black Templars....accompanying a Hereticus Inquisitor with some sisters for ultimate purging!
   
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 ncshooter426 wrote:
From the Sisters viewpoint - an Astartes is a mutant and their chapters harbor psychers. Their "brothers" are also the ones that fell to chaos taint. They are, by all measures, barely tolerable in their eyes and would be better off purged by the big I.

Black Templars got the unbreakble zeal going on. Iron Hands like to "fix" the weakness that is flesh...if that counts as cleansing the impure.



The most recent fluff has the templars still close allies with the ecclesiarchy, including the sisters. Even in the recent fall of Cadia stuff they were fairly tight. So I think that varies a bit.

But yeah, black templars are probably the best example.
   
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 Melissia wrote:
Black Templars are the most obvious example here.
So much so that if they don't respond to Primaris Marines with a retaliatory crusade, GW will have finally abandoned any pretense of trying to be fluffy.
   
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 ncshooter426 wrote:
From the Sisters viewpoint - an Astartes is a mutant


Isn't this just a mess of headcanon and projected frustration?

The Astartes were created by the Emperor's own careful hand and design. The Sisters should consider them holy, not impure.

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Well, as long as they're loyal anyway.

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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 ncshooter426 wrote:
All chapters should be purged

-Sisters


Definitely not the case, but ok.


Wasn't actual Lore that normally Sisters of Battle despise space marines because they are "unclean" and modify the holy work of the God Emperor changing the human body to become something more? And Space Marines think about Sisters of Battle as crazy followers of a man that didn't wished to be adored like a God.


Ashiyara has answerind it, probably is Headcanon that I have read I don't remember where

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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 SharkoutofWata wrote:
Red Scorpions,


Red Scorpions are less "cleanse the impure" and more "stay away from the impure". When it comes to working with others, anyway, as they're somewhat obsessed with maintaining their own purity.

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 Ashiraya wrote:
 ncshooter426 wrote:
From the Sisters viewpoint - an Astartes is a mutant


Isn't this just a mess of headcanon and projected frustration?

The Astartes were created by the Emperor's own careful hand and design. The Sisters should consider them holy, not impure.


Sisters do not consider anything that isn't human to be pure. Astartes are not human. They are to blame for...lots of stuff.

Remember kiddies: The Girls(tm) have actually talked to the Emperor. He actually intervenes in the conflicts that they're involved with....when is the last time you can remember a miraculous intervention for Astartes in trouble? It doesn't happen. Sisters view that relationship, and the path Astartes have taken (which is far flung from their father's vision) as token proof that they are not to be trusted. G-man's return kinda nails that down even further for them, how different Chapter view is from what (the closest thing to actual) source dictates.

Like mentioned before, they've loosened up a bit on some of the chapters that have proven themselves just as fanatical as they are - but for the most part, aren't on their top bro pick list in a fight. They rely on the Imperial Navy and guard for that task 9/10.


 
   
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black templars! also, world eaters because...maim kill burn equally those mutated and those who didn't.
   
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 ncshooter426 wrote:
 Ashiraya wrote:
 ncshooter426 wrote:
From the Sisters viewpoint - an Astartes is a mutant


Isn't this just a mess of headcanon and projected frustration?

The Astartes were created by the Emperor's own careful hand and design. The Sisters should consider them holy, not impure.


Sisters do not consider anything that isn't human to be pure. Astartes are not human. They are to blame for...lots of stuff.

Remember kiddies: The Girls(tm) have actually talked to the Emperor. He actually intervenes in the conflicts that they're involved with....when is the last time you can remember a miraculous intervention for Astartes in trouble? It doesn't happen. Sisters view that relationship, and the path Astartes have taken (which is far flung from their father's vision) as token proof that they are not to be trusted. G-man's return kinda nails that down even further for them, how different Chapter view is from what (the closest thing to actual) source dictates.

Like mentioned before, they've loosened up a bit on some of the chapters that have proven themselves just as fanatical as they are - but for the most part, aren't on their top bro pick list in a fight. They rely on the Imperial Navy and guard for that task 9/10.


the last time? I dunno when was the last time the Legion of the damned showed up? then of Course there's Robute "fething son of the Emperor" Gulliman..

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 ncshooter426 wrote:
Sisters do not consider anything that isn't human to be pure. Astartes are not human.


Indeed, they are designed by the Emperor to be beyond human.

Sisters of Battle are far too loyal to the Emperor to be so derisive of his work.

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 ncshooter426 wrote:

Remember kiddies: The Girls(tm) have actually talked to the Emperor. He actually intervenes in the conflicts that they're involved with....when is the last time you can remember a miraculous intervention for Astartes in trouble?

Any time Draigo, the Sanquinor, or the Legion of the Damned show up anywhere.

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 Tannhauser42 wrote:
 SharkoutofWata wrote:
Red Scorpions,


Red Scorpions are less "cleanse the impure" and more "stay away from the impure". When it comes to working with others, anyway, as they're somewhat obsessed with maintaining their own purity.


Do you think that RS would oppose taking in/adapting Primaris Marines?

 
   
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 DarknessEternal wrote:
 ncshooter426 wrote:

Remember kiddies: The Girls(tm) have actually talked to the Emperor. He actually intervenes in the conflicts that they're involved with....when is the last time you can remember a miraculous intervention for Astartes in trouble?

Any time Draigo, the Sanquinor, or the Legion of the Damned show up anywhere.


Those are characters showing up - not intervention by the Emperor. Act of Faiths bitches - Acts of Faith.

GK are shitbags anyway, we don't forgive the "paint" incident.


 
   
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 Ashiraya wrote:
 ncshooter426 wrote:
Sisters do not consider anything that isn't human to be pure. Astartes are not human.


Indeed, they are designed by the Emperor to be beyond human.



Wrong. They were designed to be dogs of war, nothing more. They are mutants, but serve a purpose - the bastard children of a bygone age and tainted with the warp. Now that Robbie is back, we'll see if he can wrangle in the doggies.


Sisters of Battle are far too loyal to the Emperor to be so derisive of his work.


And yet they are. The Ecclesiarchy does not feth around - you want to see the true power of the Imperium? It's there.

I'm just waiting for the schism to occur... needs to be a new civil war

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 ncshooter426 wrote:
 DarknessEternal wrote:
 ncshooter426 wrote:

Remember kiddies: The Girls(tm) have actually talked to the Emperor. He actually intervenes in the conflicts that they're involved with....when is the last time you can remember a miraculous intervention for Astartes in trouble?

Any time Draigo, the Sanquinor, or the Legion of the Damned show up anywhere.


Those are characters showing up - not intervention by the Emperor. Act of Faiths bitches - Acts of Faith.

GK are shitbags anyway, we don't forgive the "paint" incident.


Well, that's definitely headcanon. If the Sisters didn't approve of it, they wouldn't have offered themselves up for it.

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