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2017/07/12 12:40:35
Subject: These are NOT the Iron Warriors you're looking for [Primaris Scheme]
Well, I'm currently assembling and painting a loyalist Iron Warriors force, and as I got the Dark Imperium box, I thought about doing my Primaris using almost the same scheme, with small variations. The idea would be to make them an IW succesor chapter of new foundation:
They're not 100% finished yed, but... here they are:
2017/07/12 12:49:14
Subject: Re:These are NOT the Iron Warriors you're looking for [Primaris Scheme]
Hanskrampf wrote:Very cool. I like it a lot.
Though I feel like the base should have a bit more contrast to their armour.
Elbows wrote:Agreed. Nice work, but these are screaming out for a non-black+metal base. They really don't stand apart from the bases at all.
Thanks for the comments . On hand, and with decent light the bases look quite a bit darker than the marines, but as I'm using the GW bases and most of them are metal grates and the like, I'm not too sure what could I do to change that... maybe using another color for the border would help?
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Icelord wrote: Nice armor. Can you tell us how you did it?
Sure! Hm, let's see...
I started priming black, followed by a basecoat using Ironbreaker and a wash of Nuln Oil.
After that, cleanup using Leadbelcher and mighlight everything with Ironbreaker and a last light with Stormhost Silver, and some added definition for the panels and details that might need it with Nuln Oil glossy.
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2017/07/12 20:47:12
Subject: These are NOT the Iron Warriors you're looking for [Primaris Scheme]
Greetings Albertorius, It is nice to see a different one of the original Legions brought back as Primaris Space Marines.
I heard that Belisarius Cawl The Arch-Magos had access to all the Earth/Terra Vaults for creating more powerful Space Marines.
Creating New Loyalist Iron Warriors is pretty darn cool! I wonder if You used Forge World Water Slide Transfers for the decals on the shoulder guards & knee plates.
The Silver of the models You have shown is definitely unique.
When I went to paint My buddies Traitor Iron Warriors - Chaos Space Marines I used Boltgun Metal/Lead Belcher for the main armor color with a Nuln Oil wash.
Your paint work is really great!
2017/07/12 23:19:36
Subject: These are NOT the Iron Warriors you're looking for [Primaris Scheme]
Albertorius wrote: Well, I'm currently assembling and painting a loyalist Iron Warriors force, and as I got the Dark Imperium box, I thought about doing my Primaris using almost the same scheme, with small variations. The idea would be to make them an IW succesor chapter of new foundation:
They're not 100% finished yed, but... here they are:
They look very nice. So you're playing them as loyalists then in the new founding? I'd be fine with that. Will you be continuing the siege focus of the 30k IW with lots of bombards and such? Also, I never realized that the primaris marines (at least in that squad) were in a tactical advance walking position until your side view.
2017/07/13 06:43:18
Subject: Re:These are NOT the Iron Warriors you're looking for [Primaris Scheme]
darkstar6783 wrote: Greetings Albertorius, It is nice to see a different one of the original Legions brought back as Primaris Space Marines.
I heard that Belisarius Cawl The Arch-Magos had access to all the Earth/Terra Vaults for creating more powerful Space Marines.
Yeah, in the novels he (well, "he") had a conversation with Gilliman where Cawl told Gilliman that he had already started field testing of Primaris created via geneseed of the Traitor Legions, and that they did not show any corruption or deviation. After that Gilliman forbid him to go further. For my IWs, I have decided that he went "meh, he will never notice anyway. I'll just say they have Ultras geneseed ". I find that very much in character for Cawl, after all.
Creating New Loyalist Iron Warriors is pretty darn cool! I wonder if You used Forge World Water Slide Transfers for the decals on the shoulder guards & knee plates.
The Silver of the models You have shown is definitely unique.
When I went to paint My buddies Traitor Iron Warriors - Chaos Space Marines I used Boltgun Metal/Lead Belcher for the main armor color with a Nuln Oil wash.
Your paint work is really great!
I am indeed using the FW transfers. On those, I used FW transfers for the shoulder pads and for the sergeant's knee rank mark. The rest are from the Ultramarines section of the Dark Imperium trasnfers.
As to the metal, it was so much of the mini that I kinda wanted to make them a bit brighter than usual.
It is a slight variation of my regular 30k IW scheme:
I made the metal a bit brighter and avoided using the "danger stripes" of the IWs, deciding instead for the yellow/black shoulder pad. I also toned down the chipping.
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warboss wrote: They look very nice. So you're playing them as loyalists then in the new founding? I'd be fine with that. Will you be continuing the siege focus of the 30k IW with lots of bombards and such? Also, I never realized that the primaris marines (at least in that squad) were in a tactical advance walking position until your side view.
Thanks! Yeah, the plan is using them as loyalists of a newly created chapter. The Iron... Heads or something . Like Clark Kent's glasses, the disguise will be perfect!
So far I am going for a more "Codex" approach both in 30k and 40k. Slightly less Heavy stuff than regular IWs, slightly more Fast/Scout stuff. But yes, the general tredn would be over heavy firepower, I'm just not sure I would reiterate the mistake of using them exclusively for sieges to the point of dehumanizing them that much.
And yeah, I noticed. That's kinda cool, actually, or at least much cooler than the tactical squat .
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2017/07/13 13:47:01
Subject: These are NOT the Iron Warriors you're looking for [Primaris Scheme]
Thanks! Yeah, the plan is using them as loyalists of a newly created chapter. The Iron... Heads or something . Like Clark Kent's glasses, the disguise will be perfect!
So far I am going for a more "Codex" approach both in 30k and 40k. Slightly less Heavy stuff than regular IWs, slightly more Fast/Scout stuff. But yes, the general tredn would be over heavy firepower, I'm just not sure I would reiterate the mistake of using them exclusively for sieges to the point of dehumanizing them that much.
And yeah, I noticed. That's kinda cool, actually, or at least much cooler than the tactical squat .
That'll be an interesting change. Are you waiting for the official codex to expand it further as a pure primaris chapter or will they be mixed with your existing figs? A youtube channel that was doing something similar (at first I thought it might be you as it was a similar paint scheme and decorative bases until the guy started speaking with a British accent!) and called them the Warriors of Iron. It's not bad despite being the path of least resistance.
2017/07/13 21:27:54
Subject: Re:These are NOT the Iron Warriors you're looking for [Primaris Scheme]
warboss wrote: That'll be an interesting change. Are you waiting for the official codex to expand it further as a pure primaris chapter or will they be mixed with your existing figs? A youtube channel that was doing something similar (at first I thought it might be you as it was a similar paint scheme and decorative bases until the guy started speaking with a British accent!) and called them the Warriors of Iron. It's not bad despite being the path of least resistance.
Well, yes and no, actually.
I do have the intention of waiting to see what do Primaris get on the Codex, as I'd prefer not no mix the two types of infantry marines (they don't look that good side by side). I don't have a problem fudging it a bit by using regular Dreads, Contemptors and tanks with the Prims, though, so those will be used alongside (well, probably not the Rhinos ).
Then again, I totally plan on using the 30k stuff as regular 40k Marines. The fluff idea would be for them to be a chapter of new creation with the Primaris as the "core" of the Battle companies, but with regular marines making up the reserve ones. Those would come from the remains of multiple old chapters, too depleted to actually be practical to reconstruct them from so few, but all with the same origin, that being Ultramarines successors, which would probably be the one geneseed more able to mingle without too much of a problem with the Primaris IW one (meaning, as neither have any particular deviation, it would be easy to pretend they share the same origin).
...I could make the regular marine remnants be Imperial Fists successors, too, that could be hilarious
Could you share the channel? I'd be interested in checking it out, now ^^
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gummyofallbears wrote: Maybe add rust to the bases? And maybe some verdigris too? It would keep the bases coloured correctly but also break the color up from all the silver.
Three of those actually have rust or verdigris, but the light apparently washed away most of it, and left it invisible :(. I might try using pigments to make it showier.
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2017/07/13 22:20:37
Subject: Re:These are NOT the Iron Warriors you're looking for [Primaris Scheme]
I do have the intention of waiting to see what do Primaris get on the Codex, as I'd prefer not no mix the two types of infantry marines (they don't look that good side by side). I don't have a problem fudging it a bit by using regular Dreads, Contemptors and tanks with the Prims, though, so those will be used alongside (well, probably not the Rhinos ).
Yeah, there is a marked difference between them visually (although I freely admit I'm biased as a long time fan of true scaled marines)
...I could make the regular marine remnants be Imperial Fists successors, too, that could be hilarious
Could you share the channel? I'd be interested in checking it out, now ^^
Here's an idea for the custom chapter iconography... the imperial fist symbol sideways punching the Iron Warrior helmet in the cheek! Once again I'm biased though as a fan of blasphemous crossovers (see my Jedi Master Spock avatar for reference).
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2017/07/14 20:39:08
Subject: These are NOT the Iron Warriors you're looking for [Primaris Scheme]