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++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) ++


+ HQ +

Grand Master Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Daemon Greathammer

+ Heavy Support +

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Incinerator, Nemesis Greatsword

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So 945 pts for a 4x fully loaded Dreadknights + Grandmaster.

Based on previews of the codex release that identify an extra 30pt for a Grand Master plus DKN.

I have another 305 pts to play with for 1250.

Possible options:

Troops and Fast Attack for 1238

Strike Squad
. 7x Grey Knight (Sword): 9x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

+ Fast Attack +

Interceptor Squad
. 4x Interceptor (Sword): 6x Storm Bolter
. Interceptor Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter


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Draigo and Troops for 1244pts

+ HQ +

Lord Kaldor Draigo

+ Troops +

Strike Squad
. 5x Grey Knight (Sword): 5x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Storm bolter

Taking teleporters on all of them is pointless because you have to start half the army on the board. So unless the teleporter changes in the new book your wasting points. Also the Heavy Psycannon is meh accept for on the GM. If you dropped them you'd save another 60 points and if you dropped the incinerator you'd save 100.

That would give you 405 points to play with.

Psilencer purgation squad is 113 points. Doomglaives are 165 if I recall. Interceptors would be a good fill as well to start on the board.

Just my opinion.

Thanks for the input, reducing some of the points seems like a good idea.

This variant removes some of the excess weaponry from the knights, adds a psilencer purgation squad, and 2 interceptor squads.

Keep 2x teleporters on the Dreadknights for some strike flexibility.

I thought the incinerator could be pretty useful for an alpha strike, a few people seem to have had some luck with that combo. 12" range means it can hit when the unit is placed at 9".



++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [67 PL, 1249pts] ++


+ HQ +

Grand Master Nemesis Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Daemon Greathammer

+ Fast Attack +

Interceptor Squad
. 4x Interceptor (Sword): 4x Storm Bolter
. Interceptor Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad
. 4x Interceptor (Sword): 4x Storm Bolter
. Interceptor Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

+ Heavy Support +

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Nemesis Greatsword

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Nemesis Greatsword

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Incinerator, Nemesis Greatsword


Purgation Squad
. 4x Purgator (Psilencer): 4x Psilencer
. Purgator (Sword): Storm Bolter
. Purgator Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

That looks much better in my opinion.

Yeah, thanks. It gives me a lot more bodies to throw into the breach.


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I don't even own 4 x Dreadknights, so this is an expensive experiment


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The other option I was toying with was a Supreme Command detachment with Celestine and 2x Canoness(es)

Celestine is incredibly good so far this edition. Not sure about the canoness. That being said you could just take celestine and two grey knight hqs for the detachment.

Or even better some cheap guard hq units to fill out the detachment. Remember the key words as long as they are all imperium you can mix and match and still fulfill the requirements of the detachment.

Oh. Of course.

Thanks @TheMostWize.

I am pretty noob as you might be able to tell.

Nonesense. Take all GMDK and give them each 2 guns . It's better firepower than anything else in the codex for the cost. Fill up remaining points with strike squads.

Variant with the weapons back in.

3x DreadKnights (including Grand Master) with teleporters for strike action.

3 x squads backed by remaining DK on the table.




++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) ++

+ HQ +

Grand Master Nemesis Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Daemon Greathammer

+ Troops +

Strike Squad
. 4x Grey Knight (Sword): 4x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Falchions, Storm bolter

Strike Squad
. 4x Grey Knight (Sword): 4x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Falchions, Storm bolter

Strike Squad
. 4x Grey Knight (Sword): 4x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Falchions, Storm bolter

+ Heavy Support +

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Incinerator, Nemesis Greatsword


++ Total: [65 PL, 1250pts] ++

 w0nderland wrote:
Variant with the weapons back in.

3x DreadKnights (including Grand Master) with teleporters for strike action.

3 x squads backed by remaining DK on the table.




++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) ++

+ HQ +

Grand Master Nemesis Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Daemon Greathammer

+ Troops +

Strike Squad
. 4x Grey Knight (Sword): 4x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Falchions, Storm bolter

Strike Squad
. 4x Grey Knight (Sword): 4x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Falchions, Storm bolter

Strike Squad
. 4x Grey Knight (Sword): 4x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Falchions, Storm bolter

+ Heavy Support +

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Incinerator, Nemesis Greatsword


++ Total: [65 PL, 1250pts] ++

Seriosuly - I think you will find standard dreadknights to be underwhelming. When they move they hit on 4's (this should basically be all the time because they want to get in assault). 5++ save only - a single round of shooting from a ravager and you have a good chance at being destroyed.

Grand master hits better. Has and has a 4++ save. 2 GMDK> 3 Dreadknights. You can also get more command points this way.

Batallion
GMDK
GMDK
GMDK

Troop
5x Term
5x Strike
5x Strike

I think you can run that at 1250.

Really clever idea.

1247 points.

This variant managed to get 2x extra strike team members to bring strike squads up to 6.

Everyone has teleport strike, so some flexibility in deployment. Load outs are the same for the GMDK


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) ++

+ HQ +

Grand Master Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Grand Master Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Grand Master Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

+ Troops +

Strike Squad
. 5x Grey Knight (Falchion): 5x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Strike Squad
. 5x Grey Knight (Falchion): 5x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Terminator Squad
. Grey Knight Terminator Justicar: Storm bolter, Two Nemesis Falchions
. 4x Terminator (Falchions): 4x Storm Bolter


++ Total: [74 PL, 1247] ++

 w0nderland wrote:
Really clever idea.

1247 points.

This variant managed to get 2x extra strike team members to bring strike squads up to 6.

Everyone has teleport strike, so some flexibility in deployment. Load outs are the same for the GMDK


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) ++

+ HQ +

Grand Master Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Grand Master Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

Grand Master Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword

+ Troops +

Strike Squad
. 5x Grey Knight (Falchion): 5x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Strike Squad
. 5x Grey Knight (Falchion): 5x Storm Bolter
. Grey Knight Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Terminator Squad
. Grey Knight Terminator Justicar: Storm bolter, Two Nemesis Falchions
. 4x Terminator (Falchions): 4x Storm Bolter


++ Total: [74 PL, 1247] ++

I think that's about as good as it get for us at 1250. I'd run falchions on the strike squads - terms can stay with fashions or they also do pretty well with halberds too. Strike squads should take GOI. Use on turn 1 to shunt terms up with the GMDK. Warlord takes Sanctuary and first to the frey warlord trait - the other two take vortex of doom on both OR some combination but must take vortex of doom. pretty good stuff I think. Only thing that stinks is no great relics to take in this army.

So now I've got my hands on the codex, it looks like I've misunderstood the points from the previews.


Grand Master Dreadknight is 30 points more than the base Grand Master, but adding weapons and it's actually 55 points more, which blow out all my calculations.

Back to the drawing board.


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I think I can drop the termies and take 3 strike squads,

Or just rethink the whole idea of a Dreadknight force :0