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Space Marine Tactical Squads are equipped with a bolt pistol in addition to their bolter. So the marines have an additional attack in their shooting phase?

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 Blood_Drunk wrote:
Space Marine Tactical Squads are equipped with a bolt pistol in addition to their bolter. So the marines have an additional attack in their shooting phase?
No it's not that simple. Please re-read the rules for pistols. Basically, you get to shoot at the closest unit (i.e. the one you're in combat with) with your pistols if you're within 1" during the shooting phase. You can't fire both the Bolter and Bolt Pistol in the same shooting phase due to the rules for pistols preventing it.

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 Blood_Drunk wrote:
Space Marine Tactical Squads are equipped with a bolt pistol in addition to their bolter. So the marines have an additional attack in their shooting phase?

No. From page 180 of the main rulebook:

Each time a model equipped with both a Pistol and another type of ranged weapon (e.g. a Pistol and a Rapid Fire weapon) shoots, it can either shoot with its Pistol(s) or with all of its other weapons.

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 Ghaz wrote:
 Blood_Drunk wrote:
Space Marine Tactical Squads are equipped with a bolt pistol in addition to their bolter. So the marines have an additional attack in their shooting phase?

No. From page 180 of the main rulebook:

Each time a model equipped with both a Pistol and another type of ranged weapon (e.g. a Pistol and a Rapid Fire weapon) shoots, it can either shoot with its Pistol(s) or with all of its other weapons.


This. Or a single model in the unit can throw a grenade instead of the other 2 options.


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Right I understand no bolter in melee as you can can only fire pistols within 1" and thus in melee, and the closest unit would be the unit your in melee with. Just brought up the bolter for wysiwyg reasons.... Can grenades be used in melee really? Since youd be within 1 inch of an enemy? Didnt see that in the grenades entry, was joking with a friend that'd be a fun ability for blood angels lol

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 Blood_Drunk wrote:
Right I understand no bolter in melee as you can can only fire pistols within an 1" in melee, and the closest unit would be the unit your in melee with. Just brought that up for wysiwyg reasons.... Can grenades be used in melee really? Since youd be within 1 inch of an enemy?

No, only pistols.
General shooting rules forbid you to shoot while engaged (in 1") with an enemy.
Pistols can ignore this restriction.
Grenades follow all the normal shooting rules, with the exception, that only one grenade per unit and shooting phase can be used.
   
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Cool, I believe I understand now was just a little hesitant since the models show bolters or their heavy/special weapons. Thank you for the answers.

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 BaconCatBug wrote:
 Blood_Drunk wrote:
Space Marine Tactical Squads are equipped with a bolt pistol in addition to their bolter. So the marines have an additional attack in their shooting phase?
No it's not that simple. Please re-read the rules for pistols. Basically, you get to shoot at the closest unit (i.e. the one you're in combat with) with your pistols if you're within 1" during the shooting phase. You can't fire both the Bolter and Bolt Pistol in the same shooting phase due to the rules for pistols preventing it.


You are not wrong in this statement, but I think from context of the thread title and the question you weren't answering the question. Which is a simple: Yes.

OP: as others have said and BCB alluded to in the above: yes when a Tac Squad is in close combat they each(including those outside of fight range) get to shoot their pistols. There is a situation where those shots may not be at the unit that is in close combat with them, though, that must be considered: if there is an enemy unit not involved in the fight is closer to any of the marines, those marines must target the closer unit.

Example: you have a squad of 10 marines in close combat, there are 3 marines that are 4" away from the nearest models in the enemy unit that they are fighting. There is another enemy unit that is 3" away from 3 of the marines. The 3 marines that are closer to the unit not involved in the combat must target that unit, the 4th marine may fire into the enemy unit in combat even though he is too far away to attack in the fight phase.

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