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So, it's been a while since I've played(5th). I see mentionings of conscripts with chaos armies. What is? I don't see them in the index/codex. How do they work?

Forge world army Renegades and heretics, renegade militia most likely. Forge world sells it's own book on it's website.

What makes them worth taking? Why are they so popular?

 chimeara wrote:
What makes them worth taking? Why are they so popular?

They are meatshields. They bubblewrap your expensive stuff for a tiny cost, making them immune to deep strikers.

dunno about the chaos versions but the IG version is extremely cheap for what they do. For one they can accept orders like any other IG infantry while coming in units of 50 (thus one order affects more models) for less points. Their low LD is also countered by them also being affected by the Commissar, who effectively turns them fearless for the cost of a wound or two (again, extremely cheap wounds at that).

Also due to the system revamp where anything can hurt anything, just on 6's, the diddly their flashlights use to do now dun doodly anything that they look at due to the sheer volume of fire. And good luck trying to wipe the entire unit considering templates no longer exist and high volume of fire weapons come at a premium.

I noticed that templates have gone away, when did that happen? I usually use heavy flamer on my terminator and defiler, plus his battle cannon.

They were removed, presumably to speed up the game. Now flamer weapons typically get D6 shots.

 chimeara wrote:
I noticed that templates have gone away, when did that happen? I usually use heavy flamer on my terminator and defiler, plus his battle cannon.

Removed in 8th, no longer are players forced to meticulously space out their models 2" from each other and argue over the exact angle of the scatter die, or if you moved the blast marker 0.1" too far to clip the rear armour of your Wave Serpent.

Overall I'm okay with removing the templates.

 chimeara wrote:
Overall I'm okay with removing the templates.

Yeah, it definitely speeds things up. Not sure they're quite as effective now as they should be against big units; wouldn't be averse to them all having a rule like the demolisher cannon where they do more hits on bigger units

 Nazrak wrote:

 chimeara wrote:
Overall I'm okay with removing the templates.

Yeah, it definitely speeds things up. Not sure they're quite as effective now as they should be against big units; wouldn't be averse to them all having a rule like the demolisher cannon where they do more hits on bigger units

That's the biggest trade-off. Also, I don't like that blast weapons now scale directly with Ballistic Skill while previously they were commonly used to mitigate bad BS. Looking at the battlecannon big blast to D6 you think "oh that's basically balanced" and then you realize it's D6/2 on average....

I´m glad that they removed the templates. It took my opponents so much time placing their units. And then a small template was one hit and the large 3.

But also granted everything that had used templates is now quite low on shots besides the flamer. All of them should be also auto hitting.

jcd386 wrote:
They were removed, presumably to speed up the game. Now flamer weapons typically get D6 shots.

And also it saves having to micro-manage positioning of models. Previously you had players spreading their units into conga lines for fear of template weapons. Now we can play safe in the knowledge that we will not be penalised just for deploying our units in a particular way.

 Karhedron wrote:

jcd386 wrote:
They were removed, presumably to speed up the game. Now flamer weapons typically get D6 shots.

And also it saves having to micro-manage positioning of models. Previously you had players spreading their units into conga lines for fear of template weapons. Now we can play safe in the knowledge that we will not be penalised just for deploying our units in a particular way.

Now people are creating conga lines to avoid LOS and exploit the concept of "within x inches"

the_scotsman wrote:

 Nazrak wrote:

 chimeara wrote:
Overall I'm okay with removing the templates.

Yeah, it definitely speeds things up. Not sure they're quite as effective now as they should be against big units; wouldn't be averse to them all having a rule like the demolisher cannon where they do more hits on bigger units

That's the biggest trade-off. Also, I don't like that blast weapons now scale directly with Ballistic Skill while previously they were commonly used to mitigate bad BS. Looking at the battlecannon big blast to D6 you think "oh that's basically balanced" and then you realize it's D6/2 on average....

Blast weapons are generally pointed accordingly though. The leman russ battle cannon only costs 22 points, which is barely more than lascannon.