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So, per the fluff, I know that the Fallen are more of a ragtag group. But, I'm sure there were at least a few Deathwing and Ravenwing that fell to Chaos as well. What color Armor would they wear. I am having trouble finding pre-heresy pictures of Deathwing and Ravenwing.

Also, would ther be a chance that they would have made alliances with some of the beasts if the warp (like Forgefiends and Helldrakes... maybe even a Hellbrute) it all seems likely to me, but I'd like the opinion of some people who may know more about The Fallen and/or Dark Angels than I do.

Thanks in advance!

SG

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty certain Deathwing and Ravenwing didn't exist until after the Fallen came to be. The Deathwing certainly as a sub organisation was setup specifically to keep the secret of the Fallen's existence.

That said, the chapter had terminators and bikers before the event, so it is likely the Fallen have some of those still.

Colour wise, if they kept their pre-heresy scheme they would all wear black, same as their regular marines.

It is implied in some sources though that there were many splinters within the Fallen. Some fell to Chaos, some were loyal but in the wrong place at the wrong time, and some rebelled against the Lion but we're not Chaos. Exactly which of these still exist and in what form they organise their forces is I believe kept pretty vague (probably to allow you to forge your own narrative!).

Hope this helps and isn't entirely false!

Pres-Heresy Dark angels wore Black Armour. They also didn't differentiate colour schemes between the different wings either. So Deathwing, Ravenwing and regular Dark Angels would all wear Black.

They changed to Dark Green in remembrance of the green forests of Caliban after it was destroyed.

The Deathwing similarly changed their colour scheme to bone in honour of a single unit of Deathwing fought off a genesteeler invasion of a planet and all died.

This all happened post heresy so the Fallen would all just wear black with some green and red accents and silver trim. They also have a heavy knight theme going on.

As far as warp influence goes, that part is up to you. Time flows differently in the warp, and just how much time has changed or affected your army is for you to decide. They could have been fighting for 10 years or 10,000 years, but anything and everything is possible so yes they could have things like forgefiends and helldrakes.


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Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty certain Deathwing and Ravenwing didn't exist until after the Fallen came to be.

They did exist, actually there were more orders in the Dark Angels too. The only two to survive to the 41st millennium are the Deathwing and Ravenwing. The Ironwing for example is a Rite you can use in the Horus Heresy Dark Angels army.

This is apparently what pre-heresy Death Wing looked like:



According to the wikia, the Original Heresy-era Deathwing specialized in using Cataphractii terminator armor in assaults, so I would use those rules and models instead of the standard Deathwing Terminators.

 Brutus_Apex wrote:
The Deathwing similarly changed their colour scheme to bone in honour of a single unit of Deathwing fought off a genesteeler invasion of a planet and all died.

As far as i know Captain Cloud Runner and some of his men survived this.
Still they had a lot of losses.

As far as i know Captain Cloud Runner and some of his men survived this.
Still they had a lot of losses.

Probably. I forget details after so many years.

I have a fallen army and i would advise you do what i do. Run them as genaric space marines. Us contemptor, and cataphractii armor. Comes out really nice. You can also toss a Knight in there, because a fallen/freeblade would be super fluff as well.