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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 03:47:09
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This thread is simple, see in the few games of Warhammer I have played I have come to formulate opinions on specific factions.
I'm sure people with more experience would probably have more to say, but for me it's actually simple
Eldar...
Albeit in my first match I did have to fight a guy who was using a Wraith knight, which is a bit overkill, and I didn't fully know how to play really?
But having a freaking Wraith Knight to deal with was pretty freaking rough to say the least..
I hated them.
I also went into a Kill Team match with an entire team made of Warp Spiders once.
So that was freaking cancer, so all this together has made me form a certain resentment towards the space elves. (Dark Eldar are okay)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 03:54:24
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Orks, there's nothing about the faction that I like
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 03:57:30
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Funny thing is a friend was considering getting orks but when I told him how they play he chose an ultra obscure Space Marine faction
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 03:59:16
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Space Wolves.
A cool concept ruined by being treated like a 12 year old's bad internet fanfic trying to stuff every cool trope into one package and failing miserably at it, with some of the most absurd, contradictory and stupid fluff, naming conventions, models and rules ever seen.
They are the very definition of "try-hard".
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 03:59:58
Subject: Re:Your Most Hated Faction
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
Chandler, Arizona
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Close tie between Orks and Dark Eldar(or whatever they call themselves nowadays).
I hate Orks because their level of stupidity, and I strongly dislike the models. Their fluff is sound at least. The Dark Eldar, well, I think BDSM in space is dumb, and I dislike their fluff a lot. Plus, their models are mega-dumb to me.
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"You are judged in life, not by the evil you destroy, but by the light you bring to the darkness" - Reclusiarch Grimaldus of the Black Templars |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 04:04:07
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Vaktathi wrote:Space Wolves.
A cool concept ruined by being treated like a 12 year old's bad internet fanfic trying to stuff every cool trope into one package and failing miserably at it, with some of the most absurd, contradictory and stupid fluff, naming conventions, models and rules ever seen.
They are the very definition of "try-hard".
Hah, my girlfriend actually plays them.
Though she doesn't know much of the lore, only the basics and that they are Space Vikings and she is super into Viking Metal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 04:08:12
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vaktathi wrote:Space Wolves.
A cool concept ruined by being treated like a 12 year old's bad internet fanfic trying to stuff every cool trope into one package and failing miserably at it, with some of the most absurd, contradictory and stupid fluff, naming conventions, models and rules ever seen.
They are the very definition of "try-hard".
Yeah, the Space Wolfy Wolf lovers of Planet Wolf from 2017 barely resemble the Space Wolves of my 2nd edition codex. Some of the models are pretty awesome though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 04:14:03
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Tunneling Trygon
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Definitely Space Wolves. I usually can't talk shop with a Wolf player because they're too busy telling me about their fluff they came up with for Wolf Lord McBarkenfarten and how awesome and badass his Thunderwolf Mr Fluffikillius is. Meanwhile, I just remember the fat Space Wolf from the books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 04:19:44
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Chaos Daemons.
They're not a translation of a fantasy concept into sci-fi, like most other armies, they're literally a fantasy army in sci-fi. Since daemons can clearly wield weapons, there's no reason they couldn't have daemonic guns to go with their daemonic swords.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 04:24:55
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Space Wolves for the reasons listed. Runner up would be Eldar because I hate elves of all stripes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 04:55:51
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Repentia Mistress
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Tau. I hate their aesthetic and everything about them and never enjoyed any game against them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 05:45:18
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
New Zealand
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Crons: awful fluff, shoehorned into every major galactic event possible. Mostly boring model line. Terrible ingame rules.
Wolves: for the same reasons everyone else dislikes wolves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 05:51:25
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tau- me and idealized communism are not that cool right now.i do like them but i hate them.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 05:56:39
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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IG, I like breaking immersion from real life, and they are the closest to what we have now. The models are boring (humans and tanks) and its terribly unfun to play against, with no engagement with the enemy, static gunlines aren't fun to play against. Games take forever playing against them too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 06:26:32
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MarsNZ wrote:Crons: awful fluff, shoehorned into every major galactic event possible. Mostly boring model line. Terrible ingame rules. Wolves: for the same reasons everyone else dislikes wolves. It would be nice if we got shoehorned into events, sadly we only got cameos. Fluff could definitely use some work. As for me space wolves is an easy pick, as someone said pretentious tryhards. Blood angels would probably also make that list, linkin park blasting space vampires, whose entire gimmick is avoiding extinction by the smallest margins so they can go be sad some more. The fact that they are planning on retconning the whole horus heresy for saguinus makes me want to punch puppies. As for unfun to play against imperial knights are decidedly meh, either you have the tools to take them down and you win, or you don't and you lose.
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Constantly being negative doesn't make you seem erudite, it just makes you look like a curmudgeon. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 06:32:00
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Mysterious Techpriest
Fortress world of Ostrakan
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Space Marines, because of what GW made them into, and how they treat them... And also because of how many of SM players are out there.
They are boring to play against...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 06:32:16
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Regular Dakkanaut
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+1
Tau are aesthetically dreadful, they look out of place in 40k and looks like they got added just to cater to fans of Japanese cartoons. And they have the most obnoxious fanboys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 06:32:24
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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I've always thought that it was weird they don't. It would make sense that they'd have Daemonic bolters, .
back on topic, I have never really liked Nurgle daemon fluff or models ( 40k or fantasy). I get the whole decay aspect but not really down with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 06:57:20
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Tyranids, purely aesthetic reasons. Why are they holding guns, when they would look better just having weapons integrated into their bodies? Tyranids should be a super-version of the starship troopers bugs. Not some clown-version.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 09:22:44
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Orks. I get they're iconic for the setting, but they break the whole grimdark thing way too much; I'd quite happily see them retconned into oblivion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 10:04:03
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Tau
Too clean
Too high tech
No close combat
Doesn't fit the 40k aesthetic
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Square Bases for Life!
AoS is pure garbage
Kill Primaris, Kill the Primarchs. They don't belong in 40K
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 10:49:17
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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Space marines.
I can't stand them and I hate that GW only releases new SM stuff. I like some specific chapters like space wolves, dark angels or blood angels, but generic SM are by far my most hated faction. Guilliman is my most hated character in the game.
I also can't stand daemons and tau but only for how they look (terrible IMHO), while I hate SM for everything they are
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 10:54:23
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Necrons easily. When I first started playing Necrons were largely the only faction I fought. It just got incredibly boring.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 11:03:29
Subject: Re:Your Most Hated Faction
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Tyranids. I never really liked their model line and the whole "biotech everything" concept never gelled with me. Space Wolves are also up there for reasons Vakathi summed up nicely.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 11:09:28
Subject: Re:Your Most Hated Faction
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Nasty Nob
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Tau for me, I just don't like shooty armies or mecha battle suits. Grey Knights are pretty stupid, but I don't have a good reason for disliking them! Surprised to see people dislike Orks, I've always considered them the fan favourite faction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 11:18:09
Subject: Re:Your Most Hated Faction
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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8th Necron.
several games ive killed the opponents army almost twice over in model count yet them constantly getting back up along with Ld10 across the board means he still won due to reanimation protocols.
Incredibly slow and dull to play against also adds a nail in the coffin for me
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'What we do in life echos in eternity!'
Dark angels, Ad mech, Eldar |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 11:21:44
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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Dark Eldar.
My own faction's flavour has been gutted, stuffed with blandness and repackaged. Almost nothing about my army excites me anymore. We've lost our interesting special characters and somehow they've managed to do ALL of the special characters that remain wrong (Lelith does Drugs, Drazhar who's entire intrigue is ''Is he a Phoenix Lord or isn't he'' no longer has a stat-line mirroring the Phoenix Lords, Urien gives no unique benefits to Grotesques).
So many things are done wrong in the book. Wych weapons are boring, bloodbrides have the same wych weapon allowance as Wyches. Our ''lightning fast'' army has the slowest vehicles of all Eldar factions. Suffice to say, this edition has less identity than the last book, which had MILES less identity than the previous book. I hate what they've done to my army, despite it being marginally more competitive now than before.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 11:27:50
Subject: Your Most Hated Faction
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
UK
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Knife ears! Poncy space elves thinking they are so great but all they do is make everything worse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 11:28:42
Subject: Re:Your Most Hated Faction
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Nasty Nob
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Dark Eldar.
My own faction's flavour has been gutted, stuffed with blandness and repackaged. Almost nothing about my army excites me anymore. We've lost our interesting special characters and somehow they've managed to do ALL of the special characters that remain wrong (Lelith does Drugs, Drazhar who's entire intrigue is ''Is he a Phoenix Lord or isn't he'' no longer has a stat-line mirroring the Phoenix Lords, Urien gives no unique benefits to Grotesques).
So many things are done wrong in the book. Wych weapons are boring, bloodbrides have the same wych weapon allowance as Wyches. Our ''lightning fast'' army has the slowest vehicles of all Eldar factions. Suffice to say, this edition has less identity than the last book, which had MILES less identity than the previous book. I hate what they've done to my army, despite it being marginally more competitive now than before.
That sounds really rubbish, I've always had a soft spot for the Dark Eldar.
However a lot of your criticisms are based on 8th edition, and editions are pretty transient, so before you know it the rules will have changed again!
In terms of background and atheistic the Dark Eldar are as cool as ever
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/24 11:36:43
Subject: Re:Your Most Hated Faction
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm one of the few people out there that likes every faction; I started off as a Guard player who hated every other faction but the Guard, but a few years down the line and I was thoroughly invested in all the factions and what they have to offer.
Perhaps on the gaming stage I can get behind a few. Despite being a minor Tau player at one point, I'm not particularly keen on how they operate on the tabletop; I found them rather dull to play as and against, simply because their focus on CC is so weak, and their range is so strong, that close combat rarely happens en mass on most board setups.
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G.A - Should've called myself Ghost Ark
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