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Making this thread for random Q/A and discussion of topics on Necrons and C'tans and stuff related to actions they might take.
Not huge on the lore so sorry if some of my questions are lacking a certain fundamental understanding of something.

Question 1: Can a C'tan shard possess other necrodermis of Necrons assuming they're vacant?
ex: If a tomb worlds leadership didn't survive the long sleep but a C'tan shard woke up, as the only real 'character' could it then without direction puncture its necrodermis and spill out its essence so that it's no longer being restrained by the automated custodian AI. After which it wisps apart (shattering into lesser bits) and possessing a number of leadership shells and gaining control of the tomb because it now has all the controls. After which it could go on a campaign to collect the other shard pieces in the hopes of reassembling itself and/or its brothers (and/or devouring its brother shards to make one amalgamated super C'tan).

Mostly asking cause I was thinking of writing some fan lore 'C'tan dynasty'

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Question 2: Assuming the Necron eventually get back to sealing off the warp from reality after they get back on their feet.
Would the men of iron become a viable strategy for the defense of humanity again now that warp entities could no longer possess and corrupt them?
Or has the imperium simply fallen too far already and the inevitable further fall that would occur from from the loss of warp travel would simply leave humanity as easy prey for the Necrons?

Also, if the eye of terror was finally closed would the nids bugger off now that there's not a big bug zapper esque light from this galaxy? Or would it just eat now that its here and then wander blindly through the remainder of the galaxy attempting to find planets by pure chance?


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Question 3: Were Praetorian supposed to have the <Dynasty> keyword, or was that specifically left out so they couldn't get buffed by friendlies that buff their dynasty stuff or walk out of monoliths/invasion beams?

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Eye of Terror

There's no record of C'tan being able to escape their bonds, as far as I'm aware.

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 MrVulcanator wrote:
There's no record of C'tan being able to escape their bonds, as far as I'm aware.


Unless you're counting the ones in the tesseract vaults which have the power of a couple shards I think, cause those are always wrecking the Tesseract vault to the point they need to be constantly repaired / shielded etc and even that's no guarantee it'll maintain containment which is why they usually keep them sealed and dormant and only use them in dire situations if I remember right...


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I think there was hints that the instances of the Nightbringer and Deceiver in the pre-5th edition lore of the necrons were retroactively made into renegade shards of those c'tans acting on their own. However I doubt they would "possess" a necron, as if they exit their necrodermis body they'll just violently dissipate their energy (i.e: explode). However it is possible that a shard of the Deceiver, going rogue, will masquerade as a Necron Phaeron by assuming the form of one.

As for question 2, what the C'tans (and necrons) don't know is that souls are inherently tied to that of the Warp. the Pariahs are unique in this regard because they are souless. If they do succeed in closing the warp off from the materium, the end result would be that the soul of every single non-pariah being would be violently torn out of their bodies, killing them. The imperium of man, with the exception of the Culexus Temple, would basically collectively drop dead and humanity will likely go extinct within mere generations (considering how few pariahs there are in existence).

As for the Nids, they're not coming because of the Eye of Terrror. They're coming because the Emperor is powering the Astronomican and basically being a giant lightbulb in the sea of darkness that is space. If the warp is shut off from the material universe, the Emperor would likely be thrusted into the warp with the human souls as well, so they would bugger off, but for a different reason.

Note that the Eye is a tear in the fabric of reality, it's not the thing connecting the warp to the materium. It's possible to close the eye without severing the connection of the warp from the material universe.

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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:


Note that the Eye is a tear in the fabric of reality, it's not the thing connecting the warp to the materium. It's possible to close the eye without severing the connection of the warp from the material universe.


True, I probably just badly worded that cause I remember hearing that the necrons created it on accident towards the end of the war in heaven?..

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
However I doubt they would "possess" a necron, as if they exit their necrodermis body they'll just violently dissipate their energy (i.e: explode). However it is possible that a shard of the Deceiver, going rogue, will masquerade as a Necron Phaeron by assuming the form of one.


Yeah I figured the explosion was the violent release of the energy cause they're compressed into their containers cause they're usually massive beings. I thought I remembered the shards could get new bodies after that (assumed the necrons had a means of vacuuming them up in energy blob form) but assuming there weren't necrons around to order that to be done (unless the admin AI does it) it seemed logical to me that they could find go and inhabit a new body if it were available. However since the necron necrodemises are much smaller and not a solid sealed unit what with skeleton motif if it were possible it'd probably be very noticeable (ie - hazy energy field and crackling tendrils of energy coming out of it).

Also, even if the deceiver took on the form of a Phaeron that wouldn't innately give him the internal control software/hardware that body has though giving him the ability to assert his will on the robo zombies though right?



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The Eye was created by the Eldar when they accidentally squicked Slaanesh into existence. Slaanesh's birth was so violent that it tore the fabric of reality, creating the Eye.

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