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Is there mention of any loyalists from the traitor legions having survived?

Would it be implausible to paint up my space marines as Emperor's Children that were lost in some warp storm until now, or something to that effect?

How would these marines be treated after showing up?

I'm haven't read any of the books, and when I go to the black library I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions would be nice too.

It's absolutely possible. The story is left vague and open enough that no army was fully accounted for. Legions had troops throughout the galaxy, and not all of them were involved or associated with what the legends tell.

You can have an EC Expedition fleet on their way to help their fellow Loyalist brethren get trapped in a Warp Storm (which the Chaos Gods actually did to many) and thrown through time, coming out whenever you want.

As to your other question, the short answer is with absolute suspicion if not open hostility. The Imperium suffers daily at the hands of the traitors, and for all they know it would be another trick. Years, probably decades, maybe centuries of being interrogated, tortured, and imprisoned. Some would be killed outright, as penance for the sins of their treasonous brothers. Those that survive would probably be stripped of their identity and put into another Chapter or working for Imperium as spies and assassins. A rarer few who could verify that they were heroes would probably have a chance of keeping their name and the stories that come with it. The point is, all of those are totally valid options for stories you can have for your troops.

Personally, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't get the opportunity to keep the EC name and icons. Those are the marks of traitors and true sons of the Imperium would forsake the heresy. But if you want to keep it, though, maybe they fall out of the Warp onto a planet cut off from the Imperium. They do what they can to set up communications and perform activities in the immediate area while trying to reach someone who can help them.

The other option would be to build a 30K Legion using 40K rules; that's what I'm doing with my Imperial Fists. I get to keep the aesthetic and just spin the stories of the games I play.

That's very true about them being able to keep the insignia. I wonder if the same goes for deathwatch marines from traitor legions. Or maybe deathwatch was after The Horus Heresy.

Either way, I just thought it would be unique and confusing to people to field a Space Marines army in a tournament painted as EC, and I didn't have much luck finding any photos of others who have had the same thought. I didn't look that hard though either.

For Loyalists of the Traitor Legions, you have to remember. They left a galaxy that the Emperor was still leading. If they came out of some Warp Rift 10k years into the future, they're coming into a galaxy that is horribly superstitious and their father, the Emperor, is now deified, a corpse on a throne.

These loyalist remainders would view the galaxy through a pragmatists eyes, not understanding all of the new nuances of religious doctrine.

Now, this isn't a bad thing, as this whole game is about war, so if your loyalist Emperor's Children came out of the warp and fought against loyalist Blood Angels that thought it was a trick, there's your excuse to have SM vs. SM battles on the table, a better reason than most 'misunderstandings' that tend to happen in the Imperium.

 Meatloafwarrior wrote:
That's very true about them being able to keep the insignia. I wonder if the same goes for deathwatch marines from traitor legions. Or maybe deathwatch was after The Horus Heresy.

Either way, I just thought it would be unique and confusing to people to field a Space Marines army in a tournament painted as EC, and I didn't have much luck finding any photos of others who have had the same thought. I didn't look that hard though either.

Yeah, the Deathwatch began well after the Heresy, IIRC. The main group of Marines from traitor legions that joined the Imperium that I know of are the Knights-Errant, who eventually became the founding members of the Grey Knights. That or they were rolled into existing Legions with new identities.

Honestly, it's all a game, so paint your dudes how you want and play with the story until you get something you like. Better to like the way you model your dudes than not, right?

Mortarion's Herald wrote:
Honestly, it's all a game, so paint your dudes how you want and play with the story until you get something you like. Better to like the way you model your dudes than not, right?

Ain't that the truth.

When I read the post title, I thought: "Okay, that's an oxymoron."

But let's say there were pre-Heresy Emperor's Children space marines that were lost in the warp and reappeared thousands of years later? Without initially even knowing that their primarch had turned traitor?

That's plausible. Of course, they wouldn't be chaos marines because they were cut off the loop.

If I remember correctly, one of the founding members of Grey Knights used to be a member of Death Guard who remained loyalist, despite his primarch, Mortarion, turning traitor.

 Meatloafwarrior wrote:
Is there mention of any loyalists from the traitor legions having survived?

Plenty, with Garro - a Death Guard Battle Captain - being among the most famous Loyalist members of a Traitor Legion.

 Meatloafwarrior wrote:
Would it be implausible to paint up my space marines as Emperor's Children that were lost in some warp storm until now, or something to that effect?

By "Now", I assume you either mean 999.M41 (7th Edition) or M42 (8th Edition). Either way, such a long time disparity between when they started their Warp Jump and when they ended their Warp Jump is very much unlikely (not to mention it seems to be an overused trope among fan fiction writers of 40K). So I would say it is implausible at best, but not entirely impossible.

 Meatloafwarrior wrote:
How would these marines be treated after showing up?

That very much depends on the circumstances of their arrival and how much information about themselves they reveal to the "Modern Day" Imperium, but they would most like be treated rather poorly (assuming they weren't killed immediately for bearing the colours and Apparent allegiance to a Traitor Legion). The problem with emerging further and further away from the times of the Heresy means that these Astartes are exponentially more likely to be rejected and killed to the point where them being killed is a certainty. This is why in much of the fan fiction I've seen (and some of the fan fiction I've written), the Warp Jump starts before the Horus Heresy, ends during the Horus Heresy, and results in these "Loyalist Traitors" fighting for the Imperium. There's more to it than that, of course, but that's generally the starting basis of some of the best "Loyalist Traitors" fan fiction.

 Meatloafwarrior wrote:
I'm haven't read any of the books, and when I go to the black library I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions would be nice too.

If you're looking for suggestions specifically on Loyalists from Traitor Legions, then go for the series of books, audiobooks, and novellas associated with Garro. If you're looking for books from BL in general, we'll need a better frame of reference in terms of whatr books you're interested in.

 IllumiNini wrote:


If you're looking for suggestions specifically on Loyalists from Traitor Legions, then go for the series of books, audiobooks, and novellas associated with Garro. If you're looking for books from BL in general, we'll need a better frame of reference in terms of whatr books you're interested in.

Nothing specifically. Just an overall introduction to actual 40k books. I've only read some wiki about Fulgrim, Lucius, and the EC during the Horus Heresy. I feel like if I picked a random book, I wouldn't know who or what was happening. So, if there's a general 'starting point', that would be good.

Well, the first 3 HH books are a good start, then go into Flight of the Eisenstein for a traitor legion loyalist.

 Meatloafwarrior wrote:

 IllumiNini wrote:


If you're looking for suggestions specifically on Loyalists from Traitor Legions, then go for the series of books, audiobooks, and novellas associated with Garro. If you're looking for books from BL in general, we'll need a better frame of reference in terms of whatr books you're interested in.

Nothing specifically. Just an overall introduction to actual 40k books. I've only read some wiki about Fulgrim, Lucius, and the EC during the Horus Heresy. I feel like if I picked a random book, I wouldn't know who or what was happening. So, if there's a general 'starting point', that would be good.

As Smudge said: The first three books of the HH series - Horus Riding, False Gods, Galaxy in Flames - are very good books. Then - again as Smudge said - Flight of the Eisenstein is a good book, especially if you plan on going into the series surrounding Garro.

If you're looking at canon, there are some pretty good examples of chapters reappeared after long absences in the Badab series:

-Carcharadons (sp?) were treated with suspicion but desperate times meant they were tolerated, but IIRC a few chapters eventually disobeyed command and quit the campaign due to said suspicion (and brutality)
-Tiger Claws had a leader executed when he went to talk with imperial authorities, and then the chapter was basically earmarked for extermination

...And neither of those chapters were made of famous heretics.