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2017/08/30 15:31:50
Subject: Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
orchewer wrote: The descendants of the Tanith First and Only to make a cameo appearance somewhere.
Neat idea
I'd love for a 'New Tanith 2nd' to pop up somewhere
Also, here to support the idea of more internecine conflict within the Eldar, especially exploring the more troubling side to the Ynnari. Plenty of juicy possibilities there and in the Imperium too.
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I just want an orthodox split. Let Guliman have his bright future and let the rest of the Imperium set it on fire. The Tau and Chaos have a built in plot mechanic for inter-faction conflict, let the Imperium have one too.
Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
Guilliman undertakes a galactic pilgrimage to visit the final resting places of Colonel Iron Hand Straken, Commissar Yarrick, Knight Commander Pask, and Sergeant Harker to pay his respects to all the Imperial heroes who died of old age since 7th edition.
Then using Belisarius Cawl's technomagic and also Ynarri magicmagic Guilliman brings Sanguinius back to life! Sanguinius immediately gathers a strike force of Blood Angels and the Cadian Last And Only and attacks the Planetkiller!
He dies fighting Abaddon.
Cypher has had enough of this ! He decides that old marines is best marines. He goes on a rampage hunting down and killing all the Primaris marines. Because Your Men... Are Obsolete.
Also Cypher is Kurt Russell.
2017/09/01 04:38:22
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
Abadabadoobaddon wrote: Guilliman undertakes a galactic pilgrimage to visit the final resting places of Colonel Iron Hand Straken, Commissar Yarrick, Knight Commander Pask, and Sergeant Harker to pay his respects to all the Imperial heroes who died of old age since 7th edition.
Then using Belisarius Cawl's technomagic and also Ynarri magicmagic Guilliman brings Sanguinius back to life! Sanguinius immediately gathers a strike force of Blood Angels and the Cadian Last And Only and attacks the Planetkiller!
He dies fighting Abaddon.
Cypher has had enough of this ! He decides that old marines is best marines. He goes on a rampage hunting down and killing all the Primaris marines. Because Your Men... Are Obsolete.
Also Cypher is Kurt Russell.
Haha +1 for this.
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2017/09/01 05:16:24
Subject: Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
NH Gunsmith wrote: I for the most part pretend that none of the fluff has changed since 3rd edition. As the years progress, I find myself liking less and less of what is written.
so you're the 40k equivilant of the Battletecher who insists it's still 3025 then eh? seems fair
Haha, I don't insist. I won't force anybody else to be stuck in my time bubble in 40k, which is why it makes sense in my head for my 3rd ed styles armies to be fighting Ynnari and Guilliman.
nothing wrong with 3rd ed style srmies. by and large GW's mostly added. since then after all
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2017/09/01 12:47:01
Subject: Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
fallinq wrote: Personally I would've liked something a bit more subtle than "End of Times 40k".
Not saying they're actually going to blow up the 40k universe like they did with fantasy, but they sure are hitting a lot of the same notes.
Not exactly. 40K has been fairly static fluff-wise since the 13th Black Crusade. Everything was frozen at 5 minutes to midnight at the end of the 41st millenium. Since then, GW have been largely filling in blanks and planting plot hooks.
What they have done is finally trigger some of those plot hooks. Not all of them by any means, just a handful. The Emperor has not died, a couple of Primarchs have returned but not the whole possy. Ynnead is stirring but is not fully formed yet. Chaos has managed to win a significant victory without fundamentally altering the setting.
What GW have managed to do is to turn the heat up while keeping the recipe roughly the same. The victory of the 13th Black Crusade has hit the Imperium hard but it has been balanced by the return of Guillliman and the arrival of the Primaris Marines. The Imperium is more embattled than ever before yet its defenders rally ever more valiantly. GW have been extremely clever in that they have created the impression of fluff progression without actually changing any of the fundamentals of the setting. And they have managed to do it in such a way that gives them an excuse to introduce newer, bigger shinier models too.
Well played GW, well played!
I stand between the darkness and the light. Between the candle and the star.
2017/09/01 13:33:02
Subject: Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
At 23:59, at the end of the 41st Millenium, Trigger the Broom boy was having a final sweep around by the Golden Throne. Sadly, he had drunk one too many and knocked out the power lead, causing the emperor to die.
At exactly 00:00 of the 42nd Millenium, the Emperor is reborn, and he is as angry as, well he is angry, because he has come back as a squat!
2017/09/01 14:49:24
Subject: Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
Glory to the Squat Emperor! Glory to the Sqautted Throne! For Terra and the Squatted!
Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
Did you know Trigger the Broom boy got an award from the Custodians for never changing his broom? It was on its fifth head and seventh handle, but was still the same broom.
2017/09/02 12:10:42
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
Abadabadoobaddon wrote: Guilliman undertakes a galactic pilgrimage to visit the final resting places of Colonel Iron Hand Straken, Commissar Yarrick, Knight Commander Pask, and Sergeant Harker to pay his respects to all the Imperial heroes who died of old age since 7th edition.
And then... and then... a battered troop ship comes out of the warp and out comes Yarrick, Harker, Pask, Straken, Marbo, Creeeeeed!, Arab dude, Russian Guy, Vlad D Vostroyan, that guy, the other one, and every single Last Chancer.
Turns out they were all on a top secret mission to fight, I dunno, Orks or someone, but they got lost in the warp till Guilliman's awesomeness freed them!
They confess to their Spiritual Liege that they've always longed to be Ultramarines so Claw gives them las guns with AP-1 and improved flak armor that gives them 2 wounds and they go to war as the Adeptus Militarium Primaris!
2017/09/02 12:57:20
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
I hope for an End Times scenario, where many major players come back (not ones like Horus who've been annihilated from all creation). However what follows after is what I'd like to see. An Age of Aftermath if you will. I used spoiler code to prevent it becoming a wall of text (though it still might be this).
Spoiler:
- Terra has been destroyed during the End Times. The Emperor, now a purely-psionic entity (think Onslaught of Marvel comics fame), has saved many human souls from death and transported them to the Sanctuary (name is WIP).
- The Sanctuary is inside the Webway, where the remnants of Chaos (more on them below) cannot reach.
- The Emperor cannot leave the Webway due to the effects of the End Time, but is able to project a powerful Avatar into the material plane (Avatar of Khaine/Ynnead type thing).
- He has rebuilt the souls of his loyalist Primarch sons and forged avatars for them, each being very powerful.
- Human souls that are worthy are transformed into Astartes. These Astartes 3.0 are basically Primaris Grey Knights! Sort of like Stormcast in Age of Sigmar.
- During the End Time, the Emperor allied with the Ynnari and succeeded in somehow severing the link between Slaanesh and its consumption of Aeldari souls. Naturally this caused the Drukhari much joy.
- Despite this, many Drukhari are still raiders who get off on sadistic acts, because they know that their is no risk. Those that reformed are part of the combined Ynnari.
- Although the Tyranids succeeded in getting to Terra and destroying it, they are aware that there is still more to consume. With the new powers in the galaxy rising, they pooled their knowledge and created a single being stronger and more ferocious than even the Swarmlord. It is called the Swarm Queen! (40k's answer to Kerrigan pretty much).
- The Swarm Queen is a vessel for the Hive Mind itself, not a creature with its own sentience. It is highly psychic, adaptive on the fly, and possesses a strategic mind that rivals Guilliman and Imotekh.
- Orks are still around. Not much to say here. Even a galactic catastrophe can't keep them down.
- Necrons are still around. This time the entire race is lead by the Silent King himself, Szarekh.
- Szarekh took charge during the closing years of the End Times. Imotekh tried to usurp him but was destroyed by the Silent King who had help from others such as Trazyn.
- Many C'tan shards were outright destroyed during the End Times; Szarekh had declared them too dangerous to exist any longer. Only those of the Void Dragon remain. Now Szarekh seeks to go to Mars and annihilate the planet to prevent the most powerful C'tan from ever rising again.
- Chaos is in ruin since the conclusion of the End Times. With many of its pawns and champions destroyed, and Slaanesh's link to Aeldari souls severed forever, their grip on the material realm has greatly diminished.
- Erebus took control of the remains of the Traitor Marines by force, after killing Lorgar in exchange for blessings from the ruinous powers. He became Warmaster of Chaos.
- Following Abaddon's death, the daemon sword Drach'nyen possessed his corpse, warping it into an abomination even to daemon kind.
- Drach'nyen wants to rule the Warp itself, and despises the ruinous powers. It leads a massive daemonic legion against them.
- Erebus and Drach'nyen are bitter enemies. They are almost equal in power, with Drach'nyen having the edge...for now.
- Not all human souls were spirited into the Sanctuary. Those that remain are unworthy in the Emperor's eyes. The vast majority are followers of the Imperial Creed, members of the Echlessiarchy, or dangerously-radical Inquisitors.
- This new human empire is pretty much what the Imperium would have been had the Reign of Blood not been stopped.
- They despise the Emperor and all who were ascended by him, and happily attack the Astartes 3.0 when they show up.
- Their technology is still Imperium-grade, but has been re-engineered to be anti-psychic, given how Astartes 3.0 are psychic creations of the Emperor.
- T'au are still around. Farsight lead a massive rebellion against the Empire, executed the Ethereals for lieing to the T'au, and then declared himself their reluctant leader.
- Farsight then told the entire species all the facts he knew that the Ethereals had hidden from them (psychic powers, daemons, the truth of the engram chips, etc).
- Due to civil unrest following his rebellion, Farsight's new empire has not expanded very far beyond the borders of the previous empire.
- Towards the very end of the End Times, the Alpha Legion's true loyalty was revealed!
Make of this what you will. I could come up with more specifics, but it will take time.
0003/09/02 13:15:16
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
Abadabadoobaddon wrote: Guilliman undertakes a galactic pilgrimage to visit the final resting places of Colonel Iron Hand Straken, Commissar Yarrick, Knight Commander Pask, and Sergeant Harker to pay his respects to all the Imperial heroes who died of old age since 7th edition.
And then... and then... a battered troop ship comes out of the warp and out comes Yarrick, Harker, Pask, Straken, Marbo, Creeeeeed!, Arab dude, Russian Guy, Vlad D Vostroyan, that guy, the other one, and every single Last Chancer.
Turns out they were all on a top secret mission to fight, I dunno, Orks or someone, but they got lost in the warp till Guilliman's awesomeness freed them!
They confess to their Spiritual Liege that they've always longed to be Ultramarines so Claw gives them las guns with AP-1 and improved flak armor that gives them 2 wounds and they go to war as the Adeptus Militarium Primaris!
The Primorphisization process also embiggens them onto 32mm bases! Some complain that they're out of scale with Primaris Marines now but if you look close you'll see that's only because they're standing up straighter. Honest. I have photoshops that prove it.
2017/09/02 17:53:55
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
DrNo172000 wrote: Really I just hope GW understands they can kill off major characters and that doesn't magically invalidate a person's mini. PP had ol Goreshade be redeemed and you can still field him in Cryx, you can also field his new shiny Grysshhddd (or however you spell the damn name) version in Retribution.
In fact I really like the concept of rereleased characters who are different models, with different stats, etc to reflect fluff changes. You can field both their older and newer version legally just not in the same army at the same time. Would be cool if GW started doing that imo.
They did that in Fantasy with Valten. And many, many special characters of Fantasy where death in the "present" moment of the timeline. But Warhammer Fantasy was always more a "historical" setting where they always said "Theres no problem if Karl Franz fights agasn't Asavar Khul, even if they lived separated by 200 years".
But I don't know why, 40k is so obsessed with the... 41 millenium, and theres this "A character die= loses his model and rules". Aun'va is the only character that still has rules and model even being dead in the present moment (I believe)
I'll love to have some 36k Characters like the first Sister of Battle (The one that spoke to the Emperor personally), etc... We can survive characters of different eras fighting each other. That would be a truly Sandbox experience of the Warhammer universe.
Kell was killed by Abbadon and Creed is MIA, so there's at least one very recent example of them killing off a 40k character who has a model and rules.
I hope that civil war breaks out in the Imperium on a grand scale. It would give some justification as to why 50% of battles on the tabletop involve Imperials (usually Space Marines) vs Imperials (usually also Space Marines). It would also be a return to form of the Imperium being on the decline and assailed on all sides because going "WoooOOOooo it's the Imperium's darkest hour! Chaos is resurgent! WoooOOOooo!" and then IMMEDIATELY having a timeskip wherein Jesus Gulliman Christ flies around fixing everything and being told how wicked and epic and better-than-anything his Primaris Marines are completely destroys any narrative agency.
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2017/09/06 15:45:08
Subject: Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
I hope that civil war breaks out in the Imperium on a grand scale. It would give some justification as to why 50% of battles on the tabletop involve Imperials (usually Space Marines) vs Imperials (usually also Space Marines). It would also be a return to form of the Imperium being on the decline and assailed on all sides because going "WoooOOOooo it's the Imperium's darkest hour! Chaos is resurgent! WoooOOOooo!" and then IMMEDIATELY having a timeskip wherein Jesus Gulliman Christ flies around fixing everything and being told how wicked and epic and better-than-anything his Primaris Marines are completely destroys any narrative agency.
I REALLY was hoping for the primarus heresy with girlyman.
I hope that civil war breaks out in the Imperium on a grand scale. It would give some justification as to why 50% of battles on the tabletop involve Imperials (usually Space Marines) vs Imperials (usually also Space Marines). It would also be a return to form of the Imperium being on the decline and assailed on all sides because going "WoooOOOooo it's the Imperium's darkest hour! Chaos is resurgent! WoooOOOooo!" and then IMMEDIATELY having a timeskip wherein Jesus Gulliman Christ flies around fixing everything and being told how wicked and epic and better-than-anything his Primaris Marines are completely destroys any narrative agency.
I REALLY was hoping for the primarus heresy with girlyman.
They'll want to flog Primaris to as many Space Marine players as possible, so that was never going to happen. The best we can hope for now is Lion/Russ/whoever coming back and going "You did WHAT?!" regarding the Imperium itself and taking their Gullicast Ultraternals with 'em.
2017/09/06 18:30:18
Subject: Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
I hope that civil war breaks out in the Imperium on a grand scale. It would give some justification as to why 50% of battles on the tabletop involve Imperials (usually Space Marines) vs Imperials (usually also Space Marines). It would also be a return to form of the Imperium being on the decline and assailed on all sides because going "WoooOOOooo it's the Imperium's darkest hour! Chaos is resurgent! WoooOOOooo!" and then IMMEDIATELY having a timeskip wherein Jesus Gulliman Christ flies around fixing everything and being told how wicked and epic and better-than-anything his Primaris Marines are completely destroys any narrative agency.
I REALLY was hoping for the primarus heresy with girlyman.
They'll want to flog Primaris to as many Space Marine players as possible, so that was never going to happen. The best we can hope for now is Lion/Russ/whoever coming back and going "You did WHAT?!" regarding the Imperium itself and taking their Gullicast Ultraternals with 'em.
Was thinking more along the lines of the inquisition not being ok with this xeno tech son of a god maybe running around doing things to the emporers work. especially more of the more super puritan. would of been a nice way to relaunch guard or heck better yet Scion stuff since they are the ones designed to go kill marines.
I kinda want to see a new Siege of Terra again as well.
Not just some lame, chaos open portal, bring in some daemons and get beaten with portal closed. I want Abbadon to become the next Horus and win a series of victories that sees the massive chaos armada advancing through the systems and finally laying siege on terra.
And we will have all the daemon primarchs at his side, along with the returned primarchs on the imperium side. Then I want to Emperor to properly pass on, and ascend to proper godhood. He will then be able to create an Avatar of himself who will then fight against Abbadon.
Key thing is, it has to feel real. GW needs to have Chaos win some proper victories, such that the war actually advances right up to the doorstep of Terra. Have one or more of the daemon primarchs stir up trouble elsewhere and divert Gulliman and the indominatus crusade far away from Terra. Then strike straight through the systems towards Terra. Have a sense that this could really be it, and the defenders of humanity have their backs to the wall.
2017/09/07 05:30:37
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
+1 for the overarching conflict to result in a second siege of Terra.
I'd like to see a galaxy-spanning civil war. The total efforts of all daemon primarchs and Abaddon brings the Imperium to the brink. The Lion finally comes back and helps Guilliman to push Chaos back into the rift. Jonson utilizes some highly controversial and unconventional warp tech as part of the war effort. Everyone gets suspicious.
Instead of helping to rebuild the Lion wants to reshape the Imperium into something different. He gains the loyalty of some key first founding chapters and their successors (i.e., Raven Guard and White Scars) and begins his own, unsanctioned crusade. Some of the High Lords side with him.
Russ will arrive just in time.
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2017/09/07 09:29:52
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
Why would anyone want End Times-plotline for 40k? You do realize that this would mean the setting is over... or, worse yet, it will be the beginning of Age of The Emperor, ie. they'll overhaul the whole game to a skirmish type game, where everything is Super Primaris Adeptus Astartes all the time, led by Cato Sicarius-clones. And if you like playing any of the factions that sell the least, that whole faction will be axed.
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2017/09/07 09:52:21
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
Since the topic does include dreams, I feel inclined to list off my dreams... Dreams which will never come true, for no Geedub employee ever cared for Necrons.
1. New C'Tan models, perhaps different deities(?). Expand upon the current pantheon, embrace the eldritch terror, that sorta thing.
2. Expanding on the current Necron Warrior lore. I've always felt the current lore was... Hmm, incomplete? I like the idea of the machines being mildly intelligent with a sliver of sentience. At the end of the day they're still cold, ruthless killers but there's a bizarre but subtle quirk the separates one from the other.
3. Older lore here, and again, it'll never happen but in my own head canon, the Necron were creations of the Old Ones. When they reached the stars, and finally found them, they begged and pleaded for a cure. Because the Old Ones couldn't interfere, they told them to go eat a bag of dicks and the rest of history. I just feel there should be some deeper ties then simply drawing the gak end of the stick.
4. In depth lore mechanics. I've always had this idea that crown worlds had these huge Necron devices linking the more subservient Necrons. Lords and Overlords would input orders via holographic glyphs... Or grunts, whichever works.
5. feth, and I repeat, feth the flayer curse. There is such an easier, more grim dark solution to that which totally fits 40K. Flayed Ones are the subservient class who retained a bit too much consciousness. Driven insane by their lack of mortality, they essentially play the part by dressing themselves in whatever flesh remotely resembles their previous humanoid forms. Personally, that beats Wardian bullplop.
6. The Burning One returns, tears a new donkey-cave in the newest galactic axe wound, and steps up to the big league. Necrons hate Chaos, C'Tan hate Chaos, and despite back stabbery, there won't be anything left if that rift get bigger. So, find away to torture those shards for information to get more pylons... Hehe, you probably thought I was going to say they team up. I'd slap myself for such non-sense.
7. A Hive Fleet penetrate the big gapping axe wound. Now we all now how Slaanesh and friends love their hentai, so I wonder if they'll love it when it's brought to their front door step. That, and I love the idea of Chaos finally biting off more then it can chew. By expanding out so far, they earned the ire of all the other races.
8. To build on number 7... Ghazgull moving on to bigger, and better things without losing to plot armor, and yes, I'm implying he beat the Imperial forces. Feel free to shank me and kidnap my pets but again, xeno's get no love. It's gotten to the point that Space Marines are beginning to be more revolting then Nurglings.
So with my hopeless dreams listed, I shall lock my door before I'm beaten and clubbed.
2017/09/07 09:57:59
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
RedCommander wrote: Why would anyone want End Times-plotline for 40k? You do realize that this would mean the setting is over... or, worse yet, it will be the beginning of Age of The Emperor, ie. they'll overhaul the whole game to a skirmish type game, where everything is Super Primaris Adeptus Astartes all the time, led by Cato Sicarius-clones. And if you like playing any of the factions that sell the least, that whole faction will be axed.
Nah, why would it be End Time? You actually expect chaos to win? lol
Even if we have a siege on Terra 2, I am pretty sure Chaos and Abbadon will be defeated at the siege and forced to retreat back towards the eye of terror again. At the most, Emperor ascends to godhood and now we have Emperor Avatars like we have Avatar of Khain in Eldar. But everything else likely remains. They will find some way to keep the Astranomicon going (or the ascended Emperor is so powerful he keeps it going himself). All the primarchs will still be around even though there are lots of epic battles between primarchs and such.
2017/09/07 11:21:20
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
Necrons are the lords of order, but that doesn't make them nice, or good. Their thoughts are 'the chaos gods are created by emotions, kill everyone and no more chaos gods'
Tyranids are also the forces of order, no stray thoughts in the hive mind!
A Necron/Tyranid alliance to unite the galaxy! One mind, one purpose, no one else!
And if there must be a second Siege O'Terra, let it be because the Emperor has signed on to the kill 'em all Alliance and now Guilleman must stop him!
2017/09/07 17:13:13
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
Necrons are the lords of order, but that doesn't make them nice, or good. Their thoughts are 'the chaos gods are created by emotions, kill everyone and no more chaos gods'
Tyranids are also the forces of order, no stray thoughts in the hive mind!
A Necron/Tyranid alliance to unite the galaxy! One mind, one purpose, no one else!
And if there must be a second Siege O'Terra, let it be because the Emperor has signed on to the kill 'em all Alliance and now Guilleman must stop him!
This requires Necrons to work with the Tyranids, which consist of at least one conscious biological mind (hive mind). It may not have stray thoughts now, but it is problematic on principle. It would also have Tyranids work with something that is completely outside the hive mind, which while not impossible is kinda weird.
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2017/09/11 21:33:01
Subject: Re:Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
themonk wrote: +1 for the overarching conflict to result in a second siege of Terra.
I'd like to see a galaxy-spanning civil war. The total efforts of all daemon primarchs and Abaddon brings the Imperium to the brink. The Lion finally comes back and helps Guilliman to push Chaos back into the rift. Jonson utilizes some highly controversial and unconventional warp tech as part of the war effort. Everyone gets suspicious.
Instead of helping to rebuild the Lion wants to reshape the Imperium into something different. He gains the loyalty of some key first founding chapters and their successors (i.e., Raven Guard and White Scars) and begins his own, unsanctioned crusade. Some of the High Lords side with him.
Russ will arrive just in time.
This has my vote as well. Let me add that I want to see Corax come back and personally eviscerate every primaris marine in the chapter, then deliver their helms to Macragge.
2017/09/11 22:11:24
Subject: Hopes, wishes, wild speculation for the greater 40k plotline?
My thoughts. Please take with dangerous levels of NaCl...
- Guilliman manages to find the lab of Fabilus Bile, and successfully managed to rescue a freshly prepared clone of Ferrous Manus before Fulcrum tries again to turn him to chaos (yet fail and kill him in anger). With Ferrous back, brought up to speed and checked for "corruption" he decides to travel to Mars. While there, Cawl and him devise a way to try and use Manual memories as a sort of STC to re-create some weapons/vehicles not seen since the Horus Hersey, as Manus was a skilled craftsman as well as a warrior. While successful, Manus can only do this for very short periods, and the reverse engineering takes some time, but eventually, Volkite weaponry, exotic tanks, dreadnoughts, bikes etc can be seen once again.
- The silent king returns, with the news of the greatest enemy the Necrontyr have since the war in heaven against the C'Tan - the Tyranids. He argues to the other rulers that if they ever want to return to the flesh, they must destroy an enemy that craves it more than anything. Imperial forces notice a sharp downturn in Tyranid invasion fleets entering the galaxy due to the Necron forces engaging them.
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Guilliman undertakes a galactic pilgrimage to visit the final resting places of Colonel Iron Hand Straken, Commissar Yarrick, Knight Commander Pask, and Sergeant Harker to pay his respects to all the Imperial heroes who died of old age since 7th edition.
! He decides that old marines is best marines. He goes on a rampage hunting down and killing all the Primaris marines. Because Your Men... Are Obsolete.
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