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2017/08/29 21:04:43
Subject: Finished deploying for +1 vs. "Find the Best Spot"
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Been Around the Block
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2017/08/29 21:29:24
Subject: Finished deploying for +1 vs. "Find the Best Spot"
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Norn Queen
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 temoinlanuit wrote:Find the Best Spot mentions that the unit is placed after armies are "fully deployed". Does that mean that Ratling units do not need to be deployed before you finish your deployment and get the +1 to go first?
No. Units that have a rule like Find the Best Spot still "deploy", but they deploy in the shadows, in a teleportarium etc (i.e. in reserves). They still take a drop, to use the vernacular.
I am dumb and this isn't true.
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2017/08/29 21:35:14
Subject: Finished deploying for +1 vs. "Find the Best Spot"
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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 BaconCatBug wrote: temoinlanuit wrote:Find the Best Spot mentions that the unit is placed after armies are "fully deployed". Does that mean that Ratling units do not need to be deployed before you finish your deployment and get the +1 to go first?
No. Units that have a rule like Find the Best Spot still "deploy", but they deploy in the shadows, in a teleportarium etc (i.e. in reserves). They still take a drop, to use the vernacular.
Has that been FAQ'd/mentioned anywhere? I knew there was some debate over it. Ratlings aren't worded remotely like those other abilities you mention. Curious as I'd like mine to be a help, not a hindrance!
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2017/08/29 21:37:25
Subject: Finished deploying for +1 vs. "Find the Best Spot"
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Norn Queen
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 JohnnyHell wrote: BaconCatBug wrote: temoinlanuit wrote:Find the Best Spot mentions that the unit is placed after armies are "fully deployed". Does that mean that Ratling units do not need to be deployed before you finish your deployment and get the +1 to go first?
No. Units that have a rule like Find the Best Spot still "deploy", but they deploy in the shadows, in a teleportarium etc (i.e. in reserves). They still take a drop, to use the vernacular.
Has that been FAQ'd/mentioned anywhere? I knew there was some debate over it. Ratlings aren't worded remotely like those other abilities you mention. Curious as I'd like mine to be a help, not a hindrance!
Thats fair enough, I was working off memory and thought the FtBS rule was the same.
Looking at it now, yeah, it's super special and doesn't deploy until everyone has deployed. Which means you will never be the "player who finished setting up their army first". Seems like a harsh penalty for taking Ratlings, but there you have it. 
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2017/08/29 21:53:42
Subject: Finished deploying for +1 vs. "Find the Best Spot"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Bcb was right for most of these rules; it is just this rule that is goofy.
I would discuss it pregame, and would allow my opponents to use it without being forced to "deploy last"(of course Guard is usually last to finish anyway so it is not like it is really changing that much).
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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2017/08/29 22:34:28
Subject: Finished deploying for +1 vs. "Find the Best Spot"
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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BaconCatBug wrote: JohnnyHell wrote: BaconCatBug wrote: temoinlanuit wrote:Find the Best Spot mentions that the unit is placed after armies are "fully deployed". Does that mean that Ratling units do not need to be deployed before you finish your deployment and get the +1 to go first?
No. Units that have a rule like Find the Best Spot still "deploy", but they deploy in the shadows, in a teleportarium etc (i.e. in reserves). They still take a drop, to use the vernacular.
Has that been FAQ'd/mentioned anywhere? I knew there was some debate over it. Ratlings aren't worded remotely like those other abilities you mention. Curious as I'd like mine to be a help, not a hindrance!
Thats fair enough, I was working off memory and thought the FtBS rule was the same.
Looking at it now, yeah, it's super special and doesn't deploy until everyone has deployed. Which means you will never be the "player who finished setting up their army first". Seems like a harsh penalty for taking Ratlings, but there you have it.
Yeah, it made me put mine back in the box. :-( They're flimsy at the best of times so being an easy First Blood AND preventing me from going first isn't a great incentive to include them.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/08/29 22:35:04
Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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