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I'm scratching my head trying to figure this one out. There seems to be no role filled by Inquisitors that isn't done better by someone else. A stock loadout just offers a worse Imperial Psyker for more points, plus a nominal Leadership buff. Anything besides stock is done vastly, vastly better by a named Inquisitor, for a handful of points. There just seems to be no place for them, especially since about 80% of their unique toys and buffs were removed.

Well 40K is fundimentally a narrative game, so you are always going to get some overlap in unit choices.
The Inquisitor might be on the weaker side atm, but the Indices are a stop gap measure until the Codices come out so it is likely that they will recieve extra options and strategems if a new Codex:Imperial Agents comes out. So don't chuck your models out just yet!

Waaaghpower wrote:
about 80% of their unique toys and buffs were removed.

There's the problem. What made Inquisitors good was their customizability. You could design them to fill different niches.

Hopefully they get pumped back up in their proper codex release.

Whats the point of BA or SW then? or GK's? its flavor and fluff, fun models, it isnt just a game its also a hobby.

 Amishprn86 wrote:
Whats the point of BA or SW then? or GK's? its flavor and fluff, fun models, it isnt just a game its also a hobby.

And the award for 'missing the point' goes to...

Seriously though, I'm asking what niche they fill on the battlefield. The same could be asked of Space Wolves or BA (Until they get a codex drop, at least,) but at least SW and BA don't have their only standard HQ (and 90% of why the faction exists) invalidated by the unique characters of their own faction.

Why does it have to fill a niche battle roll?

Look at Eldar and DE, Edlar does everything DE does but better, yet you still have players playing DE.

a SM player can have Assault marines and Storm Ravens just like BA, it can have Bikes and melee SM just like SW, that was my point. BA and SW can be played the same style and fluff via normal SM.

Players like the fluff, the aesthetics, the models, the hobby, etc...

Going to copy/paste this one because I say it so often now:

From a competitive standpoint, you shouldn't use them. They're trash. None of their options are particularly notable, their psychic powers are mediocre, and their buffs are forgettable. Their statline is also really bad for what you pay. Even their leadership buff isn't much good. IG have commissars, and while Skitarii leadership is low, that's mitigated by smaller squads being the optimal loadout for them anyway.

From a fluff standpoint, you probably wouldn't want to run them either. They've lost almost all of their interesting and flavourful wargear, including some basic essentials like power armour. They're at the absolute blandest that they've ever been, which is really sad, considering how awful their representation in the edition prior had been.

As for why you're not seeing much presence from them lately, it's because even the most hardcore of us Inquisition fanboys have written them off pretty much entirely at this point. The consensus is pretty clear that everything is terribly weak and horrifically overcosted, while seriously lacking in synergy and coherency. GW couldn't have made the Inquisition less attractive as a faction if they tried (that said, I'm not entirely convinced that they didn't).

If you absolutely, positively have to take an Inquisitor, Greyfax is alright. Not great, but alright. If you're looking for psyker denial, the Culexus and Sisters of Silence will be more point efficient, more versatile, do more damage, and be far more durable, but Greyfax isn't entirely entirely incompetent as a character. She's probably worth less than what you pay for her, but she's not painfully bad. You should never, ever use any of the unnamed Inquisitor options.

 Fafnir wrote:
From a fluff standpoint, you probably wouldn't want to run them either. They've lost almost all of their interesting and flavourful wargear, including some basic essentials like power armour. They're at the absolute blandest that they've ever been, which is really sad, considering how awful their representation in the edition prior had been.

Thank you, couldn't have worded it any better.

They were pretty fun in 7th with servo skulls for the free extra warlord trait and certain buffs, but the 8th edition index options seem kinda unimportant. I suppose if you wanted to nab a land Raider or a storm raven in a AM list?

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
They were pretty fun in 7th with servo skulls for the free extra warlord trait and certain buffs, but the 8th edition index options seem kinda unimportant. I suppose if you wanted to nab a land Raider or a storm raven in a AM list?

Why would that matter?

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
They were pretty fun in 7th with servo skulls for the free extra warlord trait and certain buffs, but the 8th edition index options seem kinda unimportant. I suppose if you wanted to nab a land Raider or a storm raven in a AM list?

You can do that anyway, all of it is keyword Imperium.

I think Greyfax isn't such a bad buy for 85pts. The ability to deny 2 psychic powers per phase is pretty useful, plus she is pretty useful in targeting psykers to kill.

They aren't worth anything except being a cheap HQ to unlock battalions until their codex gets released.

While you could use them as a relatively cheap HQ, for 15 points less you could get an Astra Telepathica Primaris Psyker or a Tempestor Prime; both of which are much more cost effective Imperial HQs.

Point being: Inquisitors do not serve any competitively viable purpose in Warhammer 40k at this moment in time. They also not represented in a way that does anything to enrich their narratives or settings that they occupy.

Inquisitors are the ultimate example of a failed unit.

It still wont stop me from using three of them in my casual Imperial soup list. Or using Coteaz and a generic Inquisitor in my Guard army.

I can't see me ever running a full Inquisition list, they have been getting the shaft harder and harder since the Daemonhunters Codex in 3rd.

The Index really dropped the ball when it comes to inquisition.

But such was the lot of every unit/model that was all about customization. This is my main gripe with 8th edition, even though I like it in general.

RedCommander wrote:
The Index really dropped the ball when it comes to inquisition.

But such was the lot of every unit/model that was all about customization. This is my main gripe with 8th edition, even though I like it in general.

If I wanted to sacrifice customization for the illusion of balance, I'd play Warmachine.

They removed half our units, got rid of custom warbands, nerfed acolytes and ruined inquisitors, and made monkies useless and easy to snipe.

The best inquisition army is storm troopers and grey Knights.