Scariest Space Marine Chapter to face?

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**RedCommander**

Got to go with Blood Angels or any of their Successor Chapters.

These are the guys who go all "RIP AND TEAR!" when they fight. Fighting giant super soldiers who go into a battle rage must be a rather unsettling experience. All that bloodshed...

Though Raven Guard is a good pick too but for different reasons.

**Insectum7**

EmpNortonII wrote:

Eh. An airstrike by a flight of AX-1-0 Tiger Sharks would turn Rowboat into so much gooey paste. The flaming sword would make it easier for the pilots to line up their shots.

As a character he can't be targeted. . .

**Broly**

Jon Garrett wrote:
Perhaps not technically a Marine Chapter anymore, but the Flame Falcons would be pretty creepy to fight.

"Boss, we waz out lookin' for grub when some of them Spice Marines showed up and shot all the lads."

"Right. Well, did you at least use the burnas?"

"We tried, but the gits was already on fire."

"...Kunnin'."

I laughed hard. Brilliant.

Salamanders would be no pretty sight. Black-skinned, red glowing eyes before you and your friends get eaten alive by fire. Fun.

**Frazzled**

Insectum7 wrote:
EmpNortonII wrote:

Eh. An airstrike by a flight of AX-1-0 Tiger Sharks would turn Rowboat into so much gooey paste. The flaming sword would make it easier for the pilots to line up their shots.

As a character he can't be targeted. . .

Thats rules not fluff.

Besides an orbital or artillery park bombardment doesn't have to aim at a person...

**Xenomancers**

Salamanders probably the scariest. They really want to burn you - which is a terrible way to die.

**gnome_idea_what**

Flesh Tearers want nothing more than to strangle you with your own intestines and once they get into the fight, they will not retreat no matter what.

**Slayer-Fan123**

At least we are getting consistent votes for the Carcharodons. They do the stealthy part of Raven Guard and the ripping apart of Templars/Wolves/Tearers but they stay quiet during the whole thing.

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Jon Garrett wrote:
Perhaps not technically a Marine Chapter anymore, but the Flame Falcons would be pretty creepy to fight.

"Boss, we waz out lookin' for grub when some of them Spice Marines showed up and shot all the lads."

"Right. Well, did you at least use the burnas?"

"We tried, but the gits was already on fire."

"...Kunnin'."

Do we ever do nominations for post of the year? I'm thinking this is a contender.

**EmpNortonII**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
At least we are getting consistent votes for the Carcharodons. They do the stealthy part of Raven Guard and the ripping apart of Templars/Wolves/Tearers but they stay quiet during the whole thing.

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Jon Garrett wrote:
Perhaps not technically a Marine Chapter anymore, but the Flame Falcons would be pretty creepy to fight.

"Boss, we waz out lookin' for grub when some of them Spice Marines showed up and shot all the lads."

"Right. Well, did you at least use the burnas?"

"We tried, but the gits was already on fire."

"...Kunnin'."

Do we ever do nominations for post of the year? I'm thinking this is a contender.

I sigged it. It fits, barely.

**Jon Garrett**

Huh. Glad folks enjoyed the post. It made me laugh, so I decided to share.

**Ashiraya**

mrhappyface wrote:
I believe the Mantis Warriors have an answer for you:

Spoiler:

Why don't they just kite him? Marines in TDA are slower than marines in PA and Tyberos has no guns.

**Slayer-Fan123**

Ashiraya wrote:
mrhappyface wrote:
I believe the Mantis Warriors have an answer for you:

Spoiler:

Why don't they just kite him? Marines in TDA are slower than marines in PA and Tyberos has no guns.

It's probably clean up of the city.

Also no logic in the setting.

**Galas**

Ashiraya wrote:
mrhappyface wrote:
I believe the Mantis Warriors have an answer for you:

Spoiler:

Why don't they just kite him? Marines in TDA are slower than marines in PA and Tyberos has no guns.

Why are all W40K images a bunch of people shooting a point blank range with sci-fi weapons no matter it is some Ork junk or Eldar pulse rifles? Because thats how you get cool images!

**themonk**

+1 for the Carcharodons.

They are both masters of stealth and assault. They kill and butcher without battle cries or verbal commands. Their "Red Tithe" planetary visits cause populations to dread their arrival. They are pretty unkind and unsubtle in their interactions with humans.

The have white skin and black eyes which evokes the Raven Guard. However, they take it step further by sharpening their teeth (a notch scarier than the Wolves).

**IllumiNini**

I agree with the parties that say the Carcharodons and the Raven Guard. I Feel like the Minotaurs would not reach the same level as these two Chapters, but they'd still be relatively scary.

Blood Angels and their successors would be scary as a general rule, with my agreement also lying with the people who say Flesh Tearers - they would be especially scary and for me would probably be the most scary.

As much as I love them, I don't think the Black Templars would be relatively scary compared to other Chapters. I think the scariest thing about them is their zealotry and when you compare that to the Blood Angels and their Successors, I think that pales (especially compared to the character of the Flesh Tearers).

**Jimsolo**

Space Sharks. So violent and evil they ride the line where if they were handled or written with a little less skill they'd be cartoonish.

**Iron_Captain**

Flesh Tearers probably take the prize, but Carcharodons, Iron Hands and Minotaurs all deserve a mention as well.

**TangoTwoBravo**

Fun thread!

If Orks fear something then I suppose that Flesh Tearers would fit the bill.

Heretics, though, would truly fear the Dark Angels. What happens after the battle is the really scary part. "Welcome to the Rock!"

**TheMostWize**

Niiai wrote:
What is the chapter that have been possessed by a demon as a right of passage?

I would stil vote chargaradons though. They are so bad for you.

The Exorcists chapter requires recruits to be possessed by a daemon for 12 hours. Then a Daemon Hunter would "banish" the daemon. Those who survived physically and mentally became full battle brothers. The rest are terminated. Chapter is said to come from the Grey Knights gene seed.

**Shovan**

Carcharadons get my vote (And I'm a Minotaur player and fanboy)

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that during battle they are completely silent. No chants, no war cries, nothing.

That in itself is terrifying.

**PandaMango141**

Salamanders in open battle, theres a reason the Japanese were happy to march into a hail of bullets but ran from flame throwers.

For what comes after? Templars. Not even close. With their ties to ecclesiarchy you're going to see some nasty crucifixion and torture as religious sacrifices etc. You'd want to die to bolter fire rather than survive the encounter on the losing side.

**Izural**

Ultramarines.

Why?

Because no matter how well me and my Xenos brothers do, we'll get mary sue'd on and deleted.

**Rolsheen**

Come on!, scariest Space Marine Chapter and nobody mentions Angry Marines

**mrhappyface**

Rolsheen wrote:
Come on!, scariest Space Marine Chapter and nobody mentions Angry Marines

Read the OP.

**Ynneadwraith**

Tamwulf wrote:
Oh I dunno. Imagine being a Tau Firewarrior, just chillin' with your Blade Bro's when blue drop pods start dropping out of the sky. You spew out your tea, grab your pulse rifle and head to the battlefield. At first, it's kinda funny. Big humans in blue armor shooting archaic projectile weapons, while you and your Battle Bro's are picking them off from long range, using marker lights from Pathfinders. Then some tanks starts showing up. Big, boxy looking tanks. OK... nothing that a few railguns can't handle. But then more blue dudes show up, and now they are close. And that's when you realize that one has a sword, and not just any kind of sword, it has a chain blade on it and they are choppin' your Balde Bro's in half! Now all of a sudden, those stupid ancient guns are close enough to shoot you and they are firing bullets as big as your head... and they are ripping through the lines! The Etherals shout encouragement, and a Riptide starts mowing down all the blue guys. Suddenly, you hear a booming voice shout out "FOR THE EMPEROR!" and a 8m tall blue dude shows up, no helmet, with fancy golden scroll work on his blue armor, and a GIANT FLAMING SWORD that he stabs into the Riptide and blows up. He shouts out "BY THEIR DEATH WE SHALL KNOW THEM!" and proceeds to kill any and every living Tau that gets within a 1km of him. He keeps shouting out things like "ONLY IN DEATH DOES DUTY END!" and all the blue guys fight even harder. No matter how many you take out, they just KEEP COMING, and they keep shouting things like "BURN THE HERETIC! DESTROY THE XENOS!". Some even start chanting or singing about some Chapter or book thing... they must be insane! And that big one? Just turned to look at you in that way a big predator animal looks at it's prey.

Awesome.

What a brilliant image

PandaMango141 wrote:
Salamanders in open battle, theres a reason the Japanese were happy to march into a hail of bullets but ran from flame throwers.

For what comes after? Templars. Not even close. With their ties to ecclesiarchy you're going to see some nasty crucifixion and torture as religious sacrifices etc. You'd want to die to bolter fire rather than survive the encounter on the losing side.

It's not just the weapons themselves that would make Sallies terrifying (and SoB while we're at it). It's the smell. From what I gather, that's truly horrific.

Also, I hadn't thought about Templars after the battle. That's a damn scary prospect too.

Izural wrote:
Ultramarines.

Why?

Because no matter how well me and my Xenos brothers do, we'll get mary sue'd on and deleted.

Haha. Nothing says 'oh FFS, my force's living embodiment of the god of war is going to get strangled again isn't it' more than reading about eldar vs Ultramarines...

**Spetulhu**

Ynneadwraith wrote:
Haha. Nothing says 'oh FFS, my force's living embodiment of the god of war is going to get strangled again isn't it' more than reading about eldar vs Ultramarines...

And it does tell you a lot about Space Marine tactics that the greatest SM tactician living would choose to punch an Avatar in the face with his power fists instead of directing a few lascannons that way. When you have two powerfists every problem is something to punch, really hard.

**pm713**

Spetulhu wrote:
Ynneadwraith wrote:
Haha. Nothing says 'oh FFS, my force's living embodiment of the god of war is going to get strangled again isn't it' more than reading about eldar vs Ultramarines...

And it does tell you a lot about Space Marine tactics that the greatest SM tactician living would choose to punch an Avatar in the face with his power fists instead of directing a few lascannons that way. When you have two powerfists every problem is something to punch, really hard.

That wasn't really an option. Plus it isn't as cool as the fanfic marines making something explode with his fist.

**Ynneadwraith**

To be fair, if i had a mechanical oversized wearable fist that explodes stuff by disrupting it on a molecular level, i'd punch all kinds of sh*t too...

**Iron_Captain**

Ynneadwraith wrote:
To be fair, if i had a mechanical oversized wearable fist that explodes stuff by disrupting it on a molecular level, i'd punch all kinds of sh*t too...

Oh, hell yeah!
But to be honest, I prefer the heft of a big 2-handed thunder hammer. Now smashing something with that would be satisfying...

**nerdfest09**

I'm going to chime in with the Minotaurs on this! and yes I do collect them but I started that for a reason

they have a real languid confidence of utter resolve in their abilities, not to mention they are still just a little on the bezerk side and run around with a Chapter Master who's nearly Custode size and is basically a suit of armour animated by simmering rage. their single mindedness once engaged in warfare is frightening, no counter orders or battle plans will stay them unless it's from the High Lords and even their allies aren't safe if they step over the line and accidentally anger them (take Hecaton Aikos for example

)

put all this into a bowl and stir liberally with the fact they WANT to face marines as foes and pride themselves on shutting down renegade chapters and show them they are superior combatants has got to lend itself to the abilities they have against anyone! (since Marines are already the pinnacles of warfare, the angels of death) these guys would be supremely scary to face even if you were a Carcharadon, if you were a Carcharadon who knows how utterly brutal you are and your fell reputation stretches across the galaxy and you land on a planet amidst a war and the enemy you see is a Bronze marine who just doesn't give a gak who you are ready to take you down! ..... that's scary

**Durandal**

Carcarodons or Space Wolves get my vote. Unlike the example with the big RG, these two forces have a huge load of animal savagery on top of the usual Marine heroics.

From the average Firewarrior point of view, UM follow a recognizable military deployment and tactics. They advance and fall back, use covering fire, and sensible tactics (for the setting).

The Space Sharks would be the Jaws theme constantly. One minute your force is chilling, then the next these grey armored giants appear out of nowhere ripping you and your buddies a new one, and if you manage to beat them back, they just fade away and strike again later. You are never safe, they are always circling, picking off lone units, waiting till you let down your guard, always, without letting up.

Wolves are similar, but have an extra level of crazy. They two will flank and hit from the sides, but they add extra giant wolves that are as large as your commanders mech suit and think it might be tasty, smaller wolves larger then a individual warrior that are almost fast enough to run under your pulse rifle's range. Even larger marines that are stronger, can pound down a Riptide and will claw your men apart with claws and teeth, and will do so even if mortally wounded, and aircraft that beat the laws of aerodynamics into submission and carry large squads of howling maniacs that run headlong into your fire just to tear you limb from limb.

I mean only chaos berzerkers can up the ante on that.