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**Unit1126PLL**

Hm. Thoughts on how the Baneblade and its ilk are affected by the Vostroyan regiment rules?

I am unconvinced that it's better than the Catachan or Mordian rules for my superheavies.

**lolman1c**

What's the return of th3 classic and "much loved" rule?

**Earth127**

Hard to put in mathhammer. increased range can be a big deal (fire or not). But it's very hard to predict.

**Kirasu**

Well considering it's not designed for your super heavies, which are in a separate detachment anyway you don't have much to worry about.

Longer range guns are always good and yet another nail in the coffin to assault order and another absolutely terrible strategem.

**Unit1126PLL**

Earth127 wrote:
Hard to put in mathhammer. increased range can be a big deal (fire or not). But it's very hard to predict.

The issue I am facing with Baneblades is that the weapon ranges are so high that it's largely irrelevant.

THAT SAID, for my Stormswords, that isn't the case.

Honestly I am not sure...

**Cephalobeard**

Don’t miss tomorrow’s preview, where we’ll be looking at the Valhallans, the highly anticipated changes to conscripts, and the return of a classic and much-loved rule…

What could it beee?

**MaxT**

The Strategm could easily allow you to nab or contest an objective where you couldn't previously. You can advance in the movement phase too for a total of 3D6 extra move. Very situational yes, but not terrible.

**Unit1126PLL**

Send In The Next Wave, perhaps.

**NenkotaMoon**

**Unit1126PLL**

Or, combined squads.

**NivlacSupreme**

I'm hoping that Sergeant Bastonne comes back in some form. Now that all/most of their officer characters are dead.

Was he with the 8th?

**Galas**

So will be 8th the dead of the people that shame you and call you TFG if you use White Scars rules with your Ultramarines?
I hope so. Is obvious that with all armies having this kind of bonuses, nobody is gonna keep a trait for their army that they don't like just because they picked that army before when there were no rules for it.

**Twoshoes23**

Whoa, just had a thought. What if they get rid of Conscripts completely and reintroduce them as a stratagem( Send in the next wave, I'm unfamiliar as to how that worked back in the day). 1cp gets you 20, 2cp 30, 3cp 40, 4cp for 50 or something like that? Place anywhere in your deployment at least 9 inches away from the enemy

**Mandragola**

The extra 6" range is most useful on things that are short-ranged currently. Demolishers, punishers, multi-meltas, plasma guns - and I guess lasguns.

From using my primaris guys I can definitely say it makes a difference going from 24 up to 30" range. Even the extra 3" of rapid fire range is a really big help.

**Resin Glazed Guardsman**

According to that batrep posted on the page before Bullgryns got a price reduction as well. Looks like 35 pts for one with a power maul.

**the_scotsman**

lolman1c wrote:
What's the return of th3 classic and "much loved" rule?

My guess is "Send In the Next Wave" is the valhallan stratagem.

**Unit1126PLL**

Could also be Combined Squads... the new rule I mean.

**BrookM**

https://regimental-standard.com/2017/09/27/the-catachan-phrasebook/

The Catachan Phrasebook
by The Warhammer Community Team
Attention Guardsman! We have good news and better news. The good news is that, following critical casualties, your regiment will be returning to full strength. The better news is that this will be accomplished by merging your regiment with the Catachan 784th “Roaring Devils”.

Due to some mild cultural differences between your regiments, this may require some readjustment on your part. In particular, Catachan regiments are known for their rough turns of phrase and robust approach to authority figures. Thankfully, the Regimental Standard, with the aid of legendary Etiquette-Commissar Klaus Albericht, have provided a phrasebook in order to make this transition as smooth as possible.

Catachan Phrasebook

“Emperor dammit, Guardsman! Clear the LZ before I make one for my boot on your [Expunged]!”
Please vacate the area for your own safety, and for that of your comrades!

“You hive-soft blue-blood! That plan’s dumber than a Catachan Devil - after I’ve sawed it’s head off!”
I respectfully disagree with your current course of action.

“Light the fething maggots up!”
I humbly petition the commander to authorise the use of flamer weapons.

“Who’s the new bolt-magnet?”
I notice the Wyrdvane Psykers have been reinforced!

“I’m not letting these toy soldiers get all the glory. Charge!”
Move to support the Militarum Tempestus with all due haste!

“Be very still. Spooks can smell fear and you reek of it, greenie”
Courage, comrade! The Lictor lurks - steel your heart.

Emperor’s teeth, hangman! You didn’t have to shoot him!
Commissar, as always I commend your course of action despite some mild discomfort.

“Ammo? The only guns we need are right here” (Usually followed by flexing)
I feel this enemy would be best confronted in close combat in order to conserve resources.

**Galas**

Damm Catachans!

They have so much personality. Now they only need a decent plastic infantry kit!

**ChargerIIC**

BrookM wrote:
https://regimental-standard.com/2017/09/27/the-catachan-phrasebook/

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Commissar Klaus Albericht’s works include The Complete Etiquette Guide for Dining with Mordians: Volume 1: Pre-dinner Drinks and Appetisers, The Complete Etiquette Guide for Dining with Mordians: Volume 2: Second and Third Courses, The Complete Guide to Combat with the Heretic Astartes When They Invade an Otherwise Superb Formal Mordian Dinner, and The Complete Etiquette Guide for Dining With Mordians Volume 3: Dessert, Brandy, and Commemorating the Fallen.

That's fantastic.

**gungo**

I fully expect "send in the next wave" to be extremely similar to the word bearers version in that it allows you to remove the current conscript unit from the board and replace it with a new unit that is fully replenished.

**Colonel Cross**

The Catachans were my first love, until the plastic Cadians came out. Now the GW staff have to go ahead and remind me why the Catachans are so fun! They are doing an excellent job of getting me hyped for the new codex.

**Ravajaxe**

Hmmm I tend towards the return of combined squads rule as a stratagem, like this : spend 1 CP to merge two infantry squads of the same detachment.
We will see tomorrow.

However I'm a little worried about what they will make about my beloved Valhallans. The Catachans stratagems are quite powerful (especially if you plan to use their boosted strenght or LRBT), Mordian stratagems are OK-ish, Vostroyan ones are very handy. I hope that Valhallan stratagems will see broader use than just a boost for conscripts. Firstly because they will get nerfed anyway, secondly because I hate using them and prefer the good old line infantry squad.

**Ssgt Carl**

Manticores are back in stock. There goes the chance to scam them off $100 a pop on eBay

**Tibs Ironblood**

Put me down for either send in the next wave or combined squads. I would really like to see both, but if I had to pick I would want to combine squads. Being limited to just 10 man guard sqauds feels really weird to me.

**Ravajaxe**

Same for me. After years of manoeuvring guardsmen by combined platoons, having to use separate squads feels somewhat frustrating.

**Motograter**

So tempted to jack in my heresy themed black legion and just go all out guard

**Banelord300**

Here is me hopping ML on Chimeras got cheaper and making the Exterminator actually having the twin linked buff aswell.

**BrookM**

Oh yes, I have three Exterminators myself, it kinda stung that it didn't get the new twin-linked treatment like everything else.

**Elbows**

The Exterminator did get the doubled rounds, just like everything else. The Exterminator Autocannon is Heavy 4 (a normal one is Heavy 2)...it's just called Exterminator Autocannon instead of Twin Autocannon. At least that's what the Index includes.

While I don't play guard and think the Catachan special rules are half-baked silliness, these are the only jungle fighters anyone needs:

Van Diemens troops from Victoria Miniatures - proper Aussie/New Zealand/British "Chindit" style Guardsmen.