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I almost feel bad for someone who bought hundreds of guardsmen just to run conscripts.

Almost.

Galas wrote:So 0<1/2 of his M value.
Thanks GW for teaching us basic mathemathics.

Pages 90 and 101 – Commissar Yarrick, Lord Commissar
and Commissar, Summary Execution
Change to read:
‘Summary Execution: The first time an Astra
Militarum unit fails a Morale test during the Morale
phase whilst it is within 6" of any friendly Commissars,
one model of your choice in that unit is slain and the
Morale test is re-rolled (do not include this slain model
when re-rolling the Morale test).

WHAT A NERF

Just relearning 40K, what is this a nerf?

Used to be if you blew away fifteen conscripts, the Commissar shot one and they held the line.

Now if you blow away fifteen conscripts, something like 8 or so are going to run away, plus the one he shot.

Actually, if you have a ton of conscripts, just run them bubbled around a Valhallan officer with the pistol.
The Valhallan relic, iirc, is unchanged, but your regiment has to be valhallan now if you want to spam conscripts.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Used to be if you blew away fifteen conscripts, the Commissar shot one and they held the line.

Now if you blow away fifteen conscripts, something like 8 or so are going to run away, plus the one he shot.

Thank you. So it's not automatic now. Got it.

Anyone notice that commissars are actually worse than taking no commissars now?

Like, if you lose more than 7 conscripts, you're probably just hurting yourself by taking them, and Infantry basically don't need them for all the +1 leadership buffs tucked into the codex.

 daedalus wrote:
Anyone notice that commissars are actually worse than taking no commissars now?

Like, if you lose more than 7 conscripts, you're probably just hurting yourself by taking them, and Infantry basically don't need them for all the +1 leadership buffs tucked into the codex.

Yeah imho commissars are gone, save perhaps in other unrelated uses (leveraging that sweet sweet 2+ to hit on the Lord Commissar).

Aye, Lord Commissars will still be somewhat good for chopping and using the Emperor's Benediction for character sniping.

This doesn't bode well for future FAQs. As noted by daedalus, if you're autofauling morale, commissars stand a good chance now to worsen your losses -- unless I'm missing something, that's not an optional reroll, let alone an optional blam.

It also doesn't speak well to their use (or lack thereof) of spreadsheets and calculators ... a quick bit of napkin math suggests that the new summary execution is basically a wash.

I guess the Ld 9 bubble is still a thing? That's nontrivial, at least.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 argonak wrote:

Calvhalla wrote:
Played with the new codex. Internal balance is good as a lot of the units become good competitive considerations after the adjustment.

The strong outliers for imperium armies are still the same ones: conscripts, basilisks, psykers, scions and commisars.

I think you'd be seeing more IG lists and more of units like Plasma executioners (now somewhat efficient), Tank commanders (now can self order), and bullgryns (a really good frontline unit)

Do you know if Crusaders got the AM keyword so they can ride in chimeras?

They got the AM keyword and Acts of Faith as well.

They do not have the regiment keyword so no str 4 crusaders.

Right, no Regiment doctrines.

But Acts of Faith are unchanged after the FAQ - still per unit?

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
Right, no Regiment doctrines.

But Acts of Faith are unchanged after the FAQ - still per unit?

don't think they were in the faq. i'll be using 2 units as hoplites in my admech army so 1/2 of them each turn isn't bad.

As this codex has been out for quite a while now, this is no longer news or rumors. Please take these conversations to the appropriate 40k forum instead, thanks!