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Made in ru
Screaming Shining Spear




Russia, Moscow

Are Rangers Reinforcements? Since they are not set up during any phase, but before them.

Do they suffer a -1 to hit when set up in their way as reinforcements count as moved? Can they move later?

Can Forewarned/Auspex Scan be fired at Rangers setting up in convoluted way?

Can it be fired infinitely at [multiple squads] of them since there is no limit to stratagems used in MP unless they are used during a particular phase?

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Made in gb
Norn Queen






1) Technically no, they aren't because they don't arrive "mid-turn".

2) No. They can choose to move if they wish.

3) No.

4) No, since those stratagems are locked to being used in a particular phase.

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Made in ru
Screaming Shining Spear




Russia, Moscow

Where does it state that reinforcements is something that arrives mid-turn? All I know is "usually, they're something this and that" excerpt from brb.

Forewarned doesn't have a wording stating it is locked to a particular phase.

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Made in gb
Norn Queen






 Shadenuat wrote:
Where does it state that reinforcements is something that arrives mid-turn? All I know is "usually, they're something this and that" excerpt from brb.

Forewarned doesn't have a wording stating it is locked to particular phase.
That except is exactly it. It does not say "usually".
REINFORCEMENTS
Many units have the ability to be set up on the battlefield mid-turn, [...] Typically, this happens at the end of the Movement phase, but it can also happen during other phases.
As you can see, it can only happen in other PHASES. Before the first turn begins is not a phase.

Forwarned can't work before the battle because anything arriving not inside a turn isn't reinforcements.

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Made in ru
Screaming Shining Spear




Russia, Moscow

Yeah, we can appeal to that part as to what the nature of reinforcements is. Thank you.

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Made in ru
Screaming Shining Spear




Russia, Moscow

On page 215 brb though, it states "mid game" instead of "mid turn". Contradiction much?
   
Made in gb
Norn Queen






 Shadenuat wrote:
On page 215 brb though, it states "mid game" instead of "mid turn". Contradiction much?
That's descriptive, not a rule. The Reinforcement rule is what matters.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Mid turn is mid game so it's not actually a contradiction.

DFTT 
   
Made in ru
Screaming Shining Spear




Russia, Moscow

Mid-turn is between beginning of first phase and the end of last phase of the turn. Mid-game is between beginning of first battle round and the last one... I think. We don't really know when game truly begins?

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Made in gb
Norn Queen






 Shadenuat wrote:
Mid-turn is between beginning of first phase and the end of last phase of the turn. Mid-game is between beginning of first battle round and the last one... I think. We don't really know when game truly begins?
Again, the Tactical Reserve rules doesn't affect what reinforcements are, it's not actually laying down any rules.
   
Made in ru
Screaming Shining Spear




Russia, Moscow

RAI I agree with you. But some people appeal to it in a way of saying "well, it states everything which is not deployed during deployment is reinforcements".
   
 
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