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Can someone verify if I'm being told this correctly?

Example:

Captain in gravis armor attacks Lord of Contagion with power fist/one with the bolter attached to it. 3 of the 5 attacks hit & wound. Now despite the power fist dealing D3 wounds, first the Lord of Contagion makes 3 4+ invul saves. Then the D3 wounds are determined? Then the Lord of Contagion makes a disgusting resilience save equal to the D3 wound total?

That doesn't seem right. Shouldn't the D3 wounds be determined immediately after hit/wounds? Then the Lord of Contagion would have to make 4+ saves equal to that number, then disgusting resilience saves equal to whatever was left?

Disgustingly resilient rolls are made after the damage is multiplied. It's not a save like the old feel no pain, it's a way of negating wounds inflicted.

What you were told is correct.

Core rules, 3.4.4 and 3.4.5 detail when to roll saves and inflict damage. Damage causes the model to lose wounds, and Disgustingly Resilient happens when a model loses a wound.

No, it makes much more sense that youd save for wounds instead of damage.
The first part is how it goes I believe, as that is how it makes the most sense logically and thematically

 Cheexsta wrote:
What you were told is correct.

Core rules, 3.4.4 and 3.4.5 detail when to roll saves and inflict damage. Damage causes the model to lose wounds, and Disgustingly Resilient happens when a model loses a wound.

Ok, so lets use another example to make sure I am understanding this correctly.

A squad of 5 hellblasters all overcharge rapid fire at Lord of Contagion. All hit & wound for a total of 10 wounds.

First he makes 10 4+ invul saves.

Lets say he makes 5.

Now the D2 damage comes into effect. So the 5 that got through = 10 lost wounds. Which he would then make 10 disgusting resilience saves. Is this correct?

Correct.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Though it's best not to think of Disgustingly Resilient as a "save" - rather, it's just an ability that triggers when a wound is lost, which is very different to when a "save" is made.

yes that is correct. The full way to determine damage is:

To-Hit
To-Wound
Save
Damage
Additional Saves like Disgusting resilience or other FNP like abilities.

 Commissar Benny wrote:

 Cheexsta wrote:
What you were told is correct.

Core rules, 3.4.4 and 3.4.5 detail when to roll saves and inflict damage. Damage causes the model to lose wounds, and Disgustingly Resilient happens when a model loses a wound.

Ok, so lets use another example to make sure I am understanding this correctly.

A squad of 5 hellblasters all overcharge rapid fire at Lord of Contagion. All hit & wound for a total of 10 wounds.

First he makes 10 4+ invul saves.

Lets say he makes 5.

Now the D2 damage comes into effect. So the 5 that got through = 10 lost wounds. Which he would then make 10 disgusting resilience saves. Is this correct?

Yes.

 Cheexsta wrote:
Correct.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Though it's best not to think of Disgustingly Resilient as a "save" - rather, it's just an ability that triggers when a wound is lost, which is very different to when a "save" is made.

Thanks gentlemen. Yeah I think that was the source of my confusion. Going forward I'll try not to think of disgustingly resilient as a save and more of an ability.

BomBomHotdog wrote:
yes that is correct. The full way to determine damage is:

To-Hit
To-Wound
Save
Damage
Additional Saves like Disgusting resilience or other FNP like abilities.

I'm going to write this down. Good resource.

Worth noting that you still have to multiply wounds for single wound models. Normally you would ignore this step, but you cant if you have a damage negating ability as have to make your rolls against every point of damage.