What else should I get? (Space wolves)

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**FunyonFrodo**

So atm I have around a 1300-500 SW army list and was wondering what more I should get, my list is:
10x grey hunter
7X wolf guard termies
2x lone wolf termies
1x Wolf Priest termie
1x Iron priest
2x Razorback
And Big ol' Bjorn

I had in mind some long fangs and possibly a stormwolf gunship but I would really like to know what you guys think I should get to add on to my list. There is no points limit just do not go through the roof price wise.

Thanks everyone

**malamis**

Actual Leman Russ tanks

No joke; take a Tank Commander, deck him out as a space wolf, and add two Primaris Psykers modeled as Gothi. Supreme command detachment for 300~ points; with 49 S5 shots at bs3 if you use a punisher.

**FunyonFrodo**

It sounds good only problem is my main opponent plays ig and I really want to keep my army space marine for now, Unless there are no other good options

**Galas**

What do you want to do with your Space Wolves army? Full meele, full shooting, a mix of both?

Long Fangs, Skyclaws, another Dreadnought, 15-30 bloodclaws. Probably one Rhino. I think those things would give your army more flexibility.
Never buy the Wolf Pack of 10 models. It cost you 2,3 pounds per model when the blood pack one cost you 2 pounds per model (So 15% cheaper), and the sprues are exactly the same. If you don't want 15 bloodclaws you can build 10 blood claws and 5 grey hunters, or 10 grey hunters and 5 Wolf Guard, or even some HQ's, etc...
They all share the same sprues (They are really good sprues, I'm envious of SW as a Dark Angel player by that. Why Space Wolves and Blood Angels have special tacticals squads and I don't

)

**kaotkbliss**

I think it really relies on how you want to play your SW. It does seem that everyone was recommending Thunderwolf cavalry before. From what I've heard they are not as good as 7th ed, but still pretty good.
I would also suggest some fenrisian wolves to screen your better units. At 9pts a pop, they are great cannon fodder.

**FunyonFrodo**

For my army I was looking for and overwhelming melee army that is fast yet hard hitting

**Galas**

If you want to buy Fenrisian Wolves I'll recommend you to buy Chaos Warhounds and remove the horns and skanes from their heads. They cost the same but are 10 instead of 5.

FunyonFrodo wrote:
For my army I was looking for and overwhelming melee army that is fast yet hard hitting

Then Wulfen, ThunderWolf Cavalry, Fenrisian Wolves, Blood Claws, etc... are what you need. I'll recommend you some support in the form of Razorbacks, Long Fangs, because one can never have enough LassCannons

**tneva82**

Galas wrote:
Never buy the Wolf Pack of 10 models. It cost you 2,3 pounds per model when the blood pack one cost you 2 pounds per model (So 15% cheaper), and the sprues are exactly the same. If you don't want 15 bloodclaws you can build 10 blood claws and 5 grey hunters, or 10 grey hunters and 5 Wolf Guard, or even some HQ's, etc...
They all share the same sprues (They are really good sprues, I'm envious of SW as a Dark Angel player by that. Why Space Wolves and Blood Angels have special tacticals squads and I don't )

This btw is country dependant thing. I can get 3 wolf packs for 71.5€ from UK store(they have 10% discount plus pound exchange ratio). I can't get the 15 model pack however. For that I need to use GW direct which sells them at 40€ per 15 guys so...

**FunyonFrodo**

I generally buy my models from sites like element games due to the good prices.

But any how thanks for the suggestions would you reckon a land raider for those wulfen would be good?

**Galas**

tneva82 wrote:
Galas wrote:
Never buy the Wolf Pack of 10 models. It cost you 2,3 pounds per model when the blood pack one cost you 2 pounds per model (So 15% cheaper), and the sprues are exactly the same. If you don't want 15 bloodclaws you can build 10 blood claws and 5 grey hunters, or 10 grey hunters and 5 Wolf Guard, or even some HQ's, etc...
They all share the same sprues (They are really good sprues, I'm envious of SW as a Dark Angel player by that. Why Space Wolves and Blood Angels have special tacticals squads and I don't )

This btw is country dependant thing. I can get 3 wolf packs for 71.5€ from UK store(they have 10% discount plus pound exchange ratio). I can't get the 15 model pack however. For that I need to use GW direct which sells them at 40€ per 15 guys so...

You know? You are right. I didn't realized the Blood Pack one was GW direct. (I don't play SW

)
Yeah. With a discount the Wolf Pack one is much better. Now I only buy from UK, with the exchange from pounds to euros plus the 15-20% discount I end up buying things like 30-35% cheaper.

FunyonFrodo wrote:
I generally buy my models from sites like element games due to the good prices.

But any how thanks for the suggestions would you reckon a land raider for those wulfen would be good?

Maybe a Land Raider is a bit of overkill. To many eggs in one basket. But Land Raiders are nice, not the most powerfull thing out there but they need a lot of firepower to go down. This is more SW tactics, and it scapes my superficial knowledge of the force, sorry!

**FunyonFrodo**

No problem man, been a huge help

**Brutallica**

Space Wolves Melee power is in

Arjac Rockfist
Wulfen
Stormshield dreads.

Rest is whatever suits your style really.

But as it stands right now, 8th aint worth much for an elite melee space wolf army. We had it better in 7th with Shieldbrothers and Wulfen formation. I know, its crazy.

I suggest get the models you like, but if you want power in a semi/full competitive enviroment and hold your ground against Tau, IG and new nids. Either do as Malamis suggested and squeeze anything nasty in that is not space wolf.

Personally I celebrated 8th edition "super awsome" close combat rules that i bought a Fellblade that i sometimes play as Falchion. Been space wolf since 5th, and IMO this is the worst our melee department ever have had it.

**FunyonFrodo**

Oh sounds ruff (get it? No? I'll get my coat..)
But in all seriousness thanks for pointing that out, might go ahead then and get that stormfang, another dread, some thunder wolfs or bikes and some long fangs and extra troops.

Thanks Guys

**Galas**

Space Wolves really are hurted by being:
-A Index army.
-Space Marines that by definition aren't that good as a meele army.
-Being a semi-elite army, and as Brutallica said those aren't in a good spot in 8th.

Those things mix to make Space Wolves not a winner in 8th. But in a casual enviroment they can totally work.

**Brutallica**

FunyonFrodo wrote:
Oh sounds ruff (get it? No? I'll get my coat..)
But in all seriousness thanks for pointing that out, might go ahead then and get that stormfang, another dread, some thunder wolfs or bikes and some long fangs and extra troops.

Thanks Guys

Heheh, keep on keeping on! We are wolves, we dont falter that easy. Our time will come!

**FunyonFrodo**

Indeed brother, For Fenris!!

**Kanluwen**

So, if you're wanting to go melee heavy and planning on running some units that you hope can mulch through units...

Have you considered adding a unit or two of Primaris Reivers? Now, they're not amazing at melee...but they add a -1 LD penalty to enemy units within 3" of them, so you can potentially play a bit of a leadership screw over to the enemy when the Morale phase happens.

**FunyonFrodo**

I am not a fan of primaris really, mainly due to their price but also due to the shoddy lore.
But thanks for the suggestion

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So I made a little list of things, how does this sound:
Stormwolf gunship
Long fangs
Thunder wolves
Space wolf Venerable dreadnought or skyhammer assault (space wolf marines + drop pod)

I chose these mainly for looks/fun factor but I would like to know if there are any glaring problems with these models.

**Galas**

Drop Pods are very overpriced, but with how fast GW makes changes who knows, maybe in 3-5 months they are the new hotness.

The rest looks good, at least by my limited knowledge of space wolves.

**FunyonFrodo**

Thanks man

**kaotkbliss**

My thoughts with the SW are to play them like a pack of wolves. Mind you I've not really played since 2nd ed and I keep hearing how close combat is not good for them but I'm hoping this works.

My idea is to use fast troops like jump packs and bikes to draw units away and pick at them a little to weaken them, while stronger units like the thunderwolves and terminators advance in and finish them off. Hoping that the bulk of the army using grey hunters and razorbacks can keep the opponent's attention on them until it's too late.

**Blackie**

With the models you currently have you can add:

- 2 units of Long fangs with lascannons/missile launchers/plasma cannons

- A stormwolf

- A dread with axe/shield

- Arjac rockfist

- Njal stormcaller

- A third razorback

- Some TWC, including a wolf lord/wolf guard battle leader

There are several good units that you can add, as you can see. Even wolf guard bikers, wulfen, fenrisian wolves used as cyberwolves, and scouts have their qualities.

**hobojebus**

Honestly we are fast falling behind as codexes are released in terms of melee, I'd recommend longfangs with missile launchers which are good for clearing light infantry and piling wounds onto tanks.

Predators are good atm you could go for whirlwind support as well.

Right now we lack the tools for dedicated melee against codex armies, against index it still works.

**FunyonFrodo**

Any clues on when our codex will drop?

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Just a small thought I had,

Would an admech detachement work?