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Ok, so most of the CSM weapons updates match the SM weapons, but the CSM Chainfist droppped to 12 while the SM Chainfist got no change staying at 22. That seems like an oversight.

 Insectum7 wrote:
Ok, so most of the CSM weapons updates match the SM weapons, but the CSM Chainfist droppped to 12 while the SM Chainfist got no change staying at 22. That seems like an oversight.

Well it could be that or they decided to do so based on what units and models can actually take a chainfist. or based on the lack of actual options for chaos compared to SM

I think the points changes should be free in a pdf. But anything else is ok.

For £20 GBP I'm more than happy to pick this up mainly for the missions and battle zones. It's a yearly release and that is fine for 12 months. I can certainly agree that the points should be a free download but does it really honestly matter?

 BlackLobster wrote:
For £20 GBP I'm more than happy to pick this up mainly for the missions and battle zones. It's a yearly release and that is fine for 12 months. I can certainly agree that the points should be a free download but does it really honestly matter?

Yes, because now everyone who wants the points, and just the points has to pay for another entire book, on top of the codex, core rules, and potentially a FW index and regular index.

 Wolfblade wrote:

 BlackLobster wrote:
For £20 GBP I'm more than happy to pick this up mainly for the missions and battle zones. It's a yearly release and that is fine for 12 months. I can certainly agree that the points should be a free download but does it really honestly matter?

Yes, because now everyone who wants the points, and just the points has to pay for another entire book, on top of the codex, core rules, and potentially a FW index and regular index.

Haha suckers! I'm way ahead of you!

If you play Tau and Dark Angels you have literally no need for CA

 Wolfblade wrote:

 BlackLobster wrote:
For £20 GBP I'm more than happy to pick this up mainly for the missions and battle zones. It's a yearly release and that is fine for 12 months. I can certainly agree that the points should be a free download but does it really honestly matter?

Yes, because now everyone who wants the points, and just the points has to pay for another entire book, on top of the codex, core rules, and potentially a FW index and regular index.

If you want the point changes, Google is your friend. No need to buy the book if you're not interested in any of the other additions

 NurglesR0T wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:

 BlackLobster wrote:
For £20 GBP I'm more than happy to pick this up mainly for the missions and battle zones. It's a yearly release and that is fine for 12 months. I can certainly agree that the points should be a free download but does it really honestly matter?

Yes, because now everyone who wants the points, and just the points has to pay for another entire book, on top of the codex, core rules, and potentially a FW index and regular index.

If you want the point changes, Google is your friend. No need to buy the book if you're not interested in any of the other additions

Sure, but there shouldn't be a need to pirate the point changes. The whole point of FAQs and point changes was to be free updates to fix problem units/rules/weapons.

GW also said something about lowering the cost rules, and not needing so many different books for all the rules for a faction iirc.

Yeah we shouldn't need to go to google or battle scribe it was a dick move putting points in this book, but they knew it wouldn't sell otherwise.

But because no one at gw understands the tinternet they don't understand how self defeating this was, more rage for no profit.

You should not charge your customers to fix your own shoddy product.

 Wolfblade wrote:

 NurglesR0T wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:

 BlackLobster wrote:
For £20 GBP I'm more than happy to pick this up mainly for the missions and battle zones. It's a yearly release and that is fine for 12 months. I can certainly agree that the points should be a free download but does it really honestly matter?

Yes, because now everyone who wants the points, and just the points has to pay for another entire book, on top of the codex, core rules, and potentially a FW index and regular index.

If you want the point changes, Google is your friend. No need to buy the book if you're not interested in any of the other additions

Sure, but there shouldn't be a need to pirate the point changes. The whole point of FAQs and point changes was to be free updates to fix problem units/rules/weapons.

GW also said something about lowering the cost rules, and not needing so many different books for all the rules for a faction iirc.

Well to be fair the old gw way would of had them just release a new edition and supplements by now.

every 6 months for all updates on one book is at least predictable. though god knows maybe we will get supplements

 Desubot wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:

 NurglesR0T wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:

 BlackLobster wrote:
For £20 GBP I'm more than happy to pick this up mainly for the missions and battle zones. It's a yearly release and that is fine for 12 months. I can certainly agree that the points should be a free download but does it really honestly matter?

Yes, because now everyone who wants the points, and just the points has to pay for another entire book, on top of the codex, core rules, and potentially a FW index and regular index.

If you want the point changes, Google is your friend. No need to buy the book if you're not interested in any of the other additions

Sure, but there shouldn't be a need to pirate the point changes. The whole point of FAQs and point changes was to be free updates to fix problem units/rules/weapons.

GW also said something about lowering the cost rules, and not needing so many different books for all the rules for a faction iirc.

Well to be fair the old gw way would of had them just release a new edition and supplements by now.

every 6 months for all updates on one book is at least predictable. though god knows maybe we will get supplements

That still contradicts their statement about cheaper rules and whatnot. Paying for new missions is one thing, or when a codex is released after you have the index (as indexes were supposed to just be a temp thing), but throwing points into a book just to force people to buy it is silly, especially when they've already been doing free FAQs/Erratas.

Honestly, even having use for more than one section, the book was a total rip off. Two half-assed pages on objective markers, of which two sets were just the heroic bases and the retail markers for hobby material. VDR rules for a single vehicle which felt more like a beta test of full VDR down the line and a bunch of pages of redundant LR variants for those too lazy to make their own with the provided rules.

Apoc/Pstrike rules are nice and all, but really how often in a year do you get those in? In 80 games of 8th, the closest I've gotten was a single 4k game.

This should not have cost more than an Index. Way less and inferior content for a higher price. I am definitely not purchasing CA 2018.