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So I just bought and commissioned for painting 12 Shadow Specres, and I was wondering if anyone would like to come over and kick me square in the nuts? Some things just feel right...

They didn't magically become less awesome...so they cost some more points, no big deal.

Yeah I actually agree for the most part. a 10 point increase is a bit severe. But I actually think you can still run, just as a single large unit with support, rather than multiple msu units. I'm thinking you have a full 10-man strong squad in an alaitoc list for inherent -2 to hit at 12" or more, then support them with a farseer and warlock nearby. The farseer enables foreboding stratagem to deter deep striking, and guide makes there ranged shooting mode fantastic. The warlock can give them conceal for a -3 to hit, and with lighting reflexes stratagem, take them to a mind boggling -4 to hit, essentially rendering them near unkillable - which incidentally protects your 10-man unit from morale concerns. I do plan on running them still, but I'll probably only run them this way.

No they went way up over what they are worth, I was going to have some bought for me as payment for painting my mates zombiecide collection, instead that monies going to fallout models now.

hobojebus wrote:
No they went way up over what they are worth, I was going to have some bought for me as payment for painting my mates zombiecide collection, instead that monies going to fallout models now.

No they didn't. A heavy flamer is 17 points. Do you think you can have a gun as good as a heavy flamer, but still be able to do serious damage at 18" for no cost increase?