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Orks are gonna need a new Warboss HQ in Mega Armor or a Bike at the very least for their release, which isnt out of the question. (Marbo, Custodian HQ) I use a head swap Ghazghkull for mine, but in our Online catalog we get: Grukks Boss Mob, and the finecast Choppa Boss.

If we were stuck with 1 boss type only, i would expect them to drop tremendously in Price (and be some sort of Commisar type character), but we did not see that in Chapter Approved.

Thraka could definitely use a new model. But I don't think there will be a significant Ork model release.

They could have given Space Wolves the same Primaris-treatment as BA/DA and be done with it. But since their release is probably not in the near future I'm more and more convinced that Leman Russ is coming back in a big way.

Just a bit bummed that neither of my armies' codex is in the first fifteen or so.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Hollow wrote:


Or maybe the prophesies are true and finally releasing Codex Sisters of Battle will cause the whole 40k universe to implode.

I think that privilege belongs to the Homosapien Rotundus. but sisters are more likely in this little corner of reality.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Orks are gonna need a new Warboss HQ in Mega Armor or a Bike at the very least for their release, which isnt out of the question. (Marbo, Custodian HQ) I use a head swap Ghazghkull for mine, but in our Online catalog we get: Grukks Boss Mob, and the finecast Choppa Boss.

If we were stuck with 1 boss type only, i would expect them to drop tremendously in Price (and be some sort of Commisar type character), but we did not see that in Chapter Approved.

Alas I think we are going to face removal of those from codex. GW hasn't been releasing models much except for marines and death guard. Both being new factions(primaris, death guard). Old factions have been getting squash do with codex. Marbo and Custodian HQ's are special characters so not even generic option and only one for codex and even that far after codex.

Why would Orks lose Warboss in MA? We have Ghaz don't we?

I agree with Asmodai that the lack of major tweaks to a few factions can hint that they are in line for early codex releases in the new year.

So for the first few months we could well see, Necrons!!, some imperial lackeys then more xeno's I guess Tau or Orcs and these Xeno's races all already have big catalogues so no big miniature releases.

I also think that they will keep the current pace of releases up or at the least go down to one a month, as the books are easier for them to produce and release.

There are still going to be a few primarchs coming out if the Lion is not out before Christmas to be 2 v 2 I would be surprised as they would have missed a trick.

 Weazel wrote:
Why would Orks lose Warboss in MA? We have Ghaz don't we?

Do you see kit "warboss with mega armour" on store?

Ghaz means we are unlikely to lose Ghaz in codex. Doesn't mean it's quaranteeing survival of non-ghaz warboss in MA. Is there any other non-special character option in released codex that survived because there's somewhat appropriate special character model?

GW is running no model, no rules idea very hard now. Don't count on ANY option being in codex without specific kit for it on sale.

I'll go with T'au and Necrons right after Daemons, since they didn't get point updates in CA.
After that, my money is on SW, since it's the last main marine faction without a codex. Then the factions with an extensive model line, so Orks and DE.
Deathwatch, GSC, and Harlequins will get a proper codex eventually.
But I don't know how they're going to handle all the "minor" imperial factions and Sisters. They did put crusaders in the IG book, so maybe sisters will get a pure sororita book, and won't be in an Adeptus Ministorum book.
As for Ynnari, I don't think they'll get a codex without receiving new models.

Tau and Necrons after Daemons will make sense.
Not sure about the smaller factions like Deathwatch, Harlies, and Ynnari.
The Sisters need definitely a stand-alone codex.

flimsy quotes from the burger-flipper-equivalents in the company

Warhammer World has a staff canteen as well as Bugmans Bar, which serves food, so I'm fairly confident that they employ actual burger flippers.

tneva82 wrote:

 Weazel wrote:
Why would Orks lose Warboss in MA? We have Ghaz don't we?

Do you see kit "warboss with mega armour" on store?

Ghaz means we are unlikely to lose Ghaz in codex. Doesn't mean it's quaranteeing survival of non-ghaz warboss in MA. Is there any other non-special character option in released codex that survived because there's somewhat appropriate special character model?

GW is running no model, no rules idea very hard now. Don't count on ANY option being in codex without specific kit for it on sale.

No I don't see it, but like I said before Thraka is a good candidate for a new kit.

tneva82 wrote:

 Weazel wrote:
Why would Orks lose Warboss in MA? We have Ghaz don't we?

Do you see kit "warboss with mega armour" on store?

Ghaz means we are unlikely to lose Ghaz in codex. Doesn't mean it's quaranteeing survival of non-ghaz warboss in MA. Is there any other non-special character option in released codex that survived because there's somewhat appropriate special character model?

GW is running no model, no rules idea very hard now. Don't count on ANY option being in codex without specific kit for it on sale.

Warboss with Mega Armour is in the Mega Armoured Orks box.


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 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Orks are gonna need a new Warboss HQ in Mega Armor or a Bike at the very least for their release, which isnt out of the question. (Marbo, Custodian HQ) I use a head swap Ghazghkull for mine, but in our Online catalog we get: Grukks Boss Mob, and the finecast Choppa Boss.

If we were stuck with 1 boss type only, i would expect them to drop tremendously in Price (and be some sort of Commisar type character), but we did not see that in Chapter Approved.

Marbo is resin.
The Custodes is plastic.

 Weazel wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Weazel wrote:
Why would Orks lose Warboss in MA? We have Ghaz don't we?

Do you see kit "warboss with mega armour" on store?

Ghaz means we are unlikely to lose Ghaz in codex. Doesn't mean it's quaranteeing survival of non-ghaz warboss in MA. Is there any other non-special character option in released codex that survived because there's somewhat appropriate special character model?

GW is running no model, no rules idea very hard now. Don't count on ANY option being in codex without specific kit for it on sale.

No I don't see it, but like I said before Thraka is a good candidate for a new kit.

Which means just more "Thraka is in codex" with no safety net for WB in MA. Unless they make it Ghazkhull/Warboss in Mega armour combo kit which is unlikely.

Sisters actually fit better in a Adeptus Ministorium codex than an Inquisition one although obviously I would prefer a pure Sisters codex but I don't think GW can be bothered when they can just make some more Marines - I mean they even released specific Primaris Marines/box sets for snowflake chapters rather than fill any actual gaps in any army range.

Hopefully Orks, Necrons and co will mange to squeeze in between the Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Primaris Codex, Emperors Children, World Eaters, the updated Marines Codex and inevitable Marines vs Marines Campaign that will launch the next wave of books.

IIRC GW only said major factions will get a codex, not all?

GW is running no model, no rules idea very hard now. Don't count on ANY option being in codex without specific kit for it on sale

Well except when they do - see GK Grandmaster baby carrier. Makes no sense does it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Warboss with Mega Armour is in the Mega Armoured Orks box.

This is a Big Mek actually.

 Nym wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Warboss with Mega Armour is in the Mega Armoured Orks box.

This is a Big Mek actually.

Oh believe me, I've tried using a Mega Nob model with an elaborate Boss pole, Top Knot, extra bulky Shoulder Pads etc, and my opponent claimed he was too small to be considered a Warboss...

Played it anyway, but it certainly bummed me out...

What he probably means is there are enough bitz in the Meganobz box to build a Warboss in MA with the options available for him. I personally think it's a bit condescending of GW if they are to remove options that can readily be converted from Nobz/Meganobz kit by even a very novice hobbyist. Same goes for other armies. I understand the bike options are trickier to convert and they are probably going away but normal infantry options don't require much effort really.

I'm not sure if we have enough codexes out to really draw definite conclusions at this point. Space Wolves for example have always been about building your own individualized HQ characters so if that's a thing of the past I surely am going to be pissed about it.

I guess Celestine and her gals have been a test for Sisters. Since they have been proven popular I assume GW started development in earnest. Which measn we could potentialy see a full Sister ranges before 8th's first anniversary.

But for starters I see Deamons, Tau and Necrons, maybe something else without models. Followed by Russ with a SW dex and probably a campaign book in March/April.

Probly Angron or Fulgrim in autumn.

 Weazel wrote:
What he probably means is there are enough bitz in the Meganobz box to build a Warboss in MA with the options available for him. I personally think it's a bit condescending of GW if they are to remove options that can readily be converted from Nobz/Meganobz kit by even a very novice hobbyist. Same goes for other armies. I understand the bike options are trickier to convert and they are probably going away but normal infantry options don't require much effort really.

I'm not sure if we have enough codexes out to really draw definite conclusions at this point. Space Wolves for example have always been about building your own individualized HQ characters so if that's a thing of the past I surely am going to be pissed about it.

It's not. Look at the FAQ. Everything you find in the Index is still playable with all the options, that are even pointed according to Codex. I can still have my plague champions with Combimelta or Power sword, even though they aren't in the codex.

Line up will probably be all codex released by June, a large model release for the summer holidays alongside a campaign event then end the year with some narrative campaign supplements. 2019 we might be looking at revised 2nd edition codices reprints for the most popular armies and expanding out sub factions which didn't get their own codex in the first round in to their own codex (e.g. we might see a tempestus scions codex or one of the Space Marine factions in the SM codex expanded in to their own release).

Ragnar69 wrote:
I guess Celestine and her gals have been a test for Sisters. Since they have been proven popular I assume GW started development in earnest. Which measn we could potentialy see a full Sister ranges before 8th's first anniversary.

But for starters I see Deamons, Tau and Necrons, maybe something else without models. Followed by Russ with a SW dex and probably a campaign book in March/April.

Probly Angron or Fulgrim in autumn.

Are they sold seperately or only with the other 2 models?

Not much of a test then.

Not sure why GW would need to test Sisters specifically with Celestine (doubt it), but if this is the case, they'd be way off.

- Celestine release January 2017.
- 2-3 months or so to actually collect data and gauge interest
- roughly 2 years average from concept to shelf

That'd put a Sisters release into the early summer of 2019, if there're no delays and assuming they'd put in the resources to do a fairly complete range overhaul in that time, so summer 2020 might be realistic as well (all assuming it only kicks off with Celestine as a test).

 Weazel wrote:
What he probably means is there are enough bitz in the Meganobz box to build a Warboss in MA with the options available for him. I personally think it's a bit condescending of GW if they are to remove options that can readily be converted from Nobz/Meganobz kit by even a very novice hobbyist. Same goes for other armies. I understand the bike options are trickier to convert and they are probably going away but normal infantry options don't require much effort really.

I'm not sure if we have enough codexes out to really draw definite conclusions at this point. Space Wolves for example have always been about building your own individualized HQ characters so if that's a thing of the past I surely am going to be pissed about it.

Well GW has been condescending like that all through. No reason to expect them to change the style on that. You get to build your own invidualized HQ background! But The Hobby requires you to assemble model as shown so there shall be no alteration!

What we have left:

Chaos Daemons
Dark Eldar
Harlequins
Necrons
Orks
Tau Empire
Genestealer Cults
Deathwatch
Space Wolves
Agents of the Imperium
Adepta Sororitas (Sisters of Battle)
Imperial Knights

12 armies. Start with the Damons on Jan. 13. Release another codex every 2 weeks. They would finish up on June 30th.

Don't forget Khorne Deamonkin!

Like red five I think we will be done with codexes for existing armies by july of 2018. What happens after that is a mystery, but at a guess I think we will get a completely new faction. Having spent so much time working on catching the existing factions up to 8th ed they will be worried that things are getting stale. Maybe it will be demons not affiliated with the ruinous powers (ala lizardmen from AoS), maybe it's a faction we've only heard about but have no details on (Rakghouls or the old ones), but whatever it is it will be a completely new faction rather than a subfaction of an existing force.

Other new factions we can expect are of course the emperors children, and world eaters along with their daemon primarchs.

I kinda doubt EC and WE will get their own codexes, personally. Death Guard and Thousand Sons are unique in that neither legion uses any chaos space marines; all CSM in the former are Plague Marines and all CSM in the latter are Rubrics. EC and WE don't have any reason to have their army lists limited in the same way since they can potentially use everything in the codex without problems.

 Hollow wrote:
If that's the case (Which I sincerely hope it is) what do people think they will do in the second year?

I think you will see some campaign packs in the style of AoS, I also think they will put out some optional rules type books. We will likely get CA every year for tweeks and suchnot. Likely we will see more terrain kits with rules in them. Realistically once the codexs are all out, then they can really take stock of the state of the game and go from there.

 Arachnofiend wrote:
I kinda doubt EC and WE will get their own codexes, personally. Death Guard and Thousand Sons are unique in that neither legion uses any chaos space marines; all CSM in the former are Plague Marines and all CSM in the latter are Rubrics. EC and WE don't have any reason to have their army lists limited in the same way since they can potentially use everything in the codex without problems.

In traitor's hate I believe you could take CSM in death guard so a similar change excluding non-cult troops could happen when EC and WE get their own model lines. Both the EC and WE are cult legions (noise marines and khorne berserkers), and since we know a certain snake like daemon primarch is in the wings I would expect EC to get spun out into it's own legion with a few unique models, ala TS. They could have a slaanesh themed tank, plus EC is very likely to be where they introduce Primaris fabius bile and chaos primaris marines.

I certainly wouldn't be upset with a big EC release. Hopefully it'd come with new Noise Marine models that are as fun and silly as they should be. Bring back the guitar guns!