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Hello there, there was no thread about citadel painting application (I tried search tool) so I made a whole new. Any discussion about it can be entered here.

First, great thing from GW that they put so much effort on this FREE application, tutorials and guides are really helpful. I finally found good colour scheme for my plaguebearers.

Only downside is that there was no guide to paint Nuln scheme for Empire, but maybe they add it later.

I strongly recommend people to try it. If you already have, tell us about your experience!

Downloaded it just the other day. I find it to be little more than a glorified paint catalog. It only has a few examples of color combinations and it's only shown on a small piece of a model like a marine back packl. It would be nice for it to be more interactive - to be able to see what a shade looks like over a color of your choosing and/or how that would look on a model.

Well, true, it has its limits, but on a very rare occasion you are painting the whole model with just one colour+shade. Not so sure if they could actually add that sort of ability in there.

There were threads on it back when it came out. Maybe not easy to find with the dakka search function. If I recall the general consensus was it's nice GW released something for free but the app itself was mostly useless and even had some errors in it (I recall a thread someone made where they followed the instructions and got the wrong effect because the layer or highlight colours were wrong).

I downloaded the app when it came out, played around with it for 5 minutes then deleted it.

It is very handy as a paint catalogue, but has some bizarre design concepts... For one, there is no way to actually browse paints by shade - if you want to see what exact shades of e.g. green GW produces there is no way to do it in a usefull manner. Instead you have to go through different "paint by colour" process entries... And list of all available paints is sorted by GW "random colour name generator". Also, "Paint by colour" do not list all of the named "processes" that can be found on listed minis, so you sometime have to switch back and forth between different lists to see what shades give you most options...

But with all it's awkwardness it is whole lot better than GW web store and I really don't see how I could manage my recent large paint purchase (~60 paints total in one go). It was tedious with the app, and would take a lot more time without (even including time to redo all the "wishlisting" couple of times, because there is sometimes a frustrating glitch, when tapping one wishlist icon in "paint by colour" process page checks all the paints listed in that process...

You mean hue. Not shade.

Hue is the colors of the rainbow.

Shade is adding black

Tone is adding grey.

Tint is adding white.

Also i dont need a paint catalog or a app with guides. I need a app that allows me to record my own painting process and save them so that when i walk away from an army for a bit and return to it i can remember how the hell i did that.

 Lance845 wrote:
You mean hue. Not shade.

Hue is the colors of the rainbow.

Shade is adding black

Tone is adding grey.

Tint is adding white.

Also i dont need a paint catalog or a app with guides. I need a app that allows me to record my own painting process and save them so that when i walk away from an army for a bit and return to it i can remember how the hell i did that.

Check out paintRack. There's an option in there to save what paints were used for a project. I paint world eaters and have it saved to show what I used on my red, brass, bone, and etc.

 Lance845 wrote:
Also i dont need a paint catalog or a app with guides. I need a app that allows me to record my own painting process and save them so that when i walk away from an army for a bit and return to it i can remember how the hell i did that.

It's called notepad.

I just create a note in my phone titled the name of the model then write down the process for painting each bit of the model. Notepad on my phone syncs with my google account so I can check on my computer too.

I feel like any app more complicated than notepad is just adding unnecessary complication. I guess if you're really hardcore you might want to take a photo of the model and add the notes to the photo instead.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
Also i dont need a paint catalog or a app with guides. I need a app that allows me to record my own painting process and save them so that when i walk away from an army for a bit and return to it i can remember how the hell i did that.

It's called notepad.

Amen to this. Write down what you paint in a notepad.

I do currently keep a note pad (after forgetting a couple things in the past). But an app that acted as inventory and such along with being able to create a process/technique log would be ideal.

I don't really get what the citadel app is supposed to be for. But if a company was going to make a paint app it seems a process/technique log would have been a no brainer feature.

 Lance845 wrote:
I do currently keep a note pad (after forgetting a couple things in the past). But an app that acted as inventory and such along with being able to create a process/technique log would be ideal.

I still don't really understand the need. You can use notepad on your phone/tablet/computer/whatever and then use excel (or an online equivalent of excel) to keep track of your paints.

I could make you an app that just has 2 links, one that links you to google sheets and another that links you to google docs

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
I do currently keep a note pad (after forgetting a couple things in the past). But an app that acted as inventory and such along with being able to create a process/technique log would be ideal.

I still don't really understand the need. You can use notepad on your phone/tablet/computer/whatever and then use excel (or an online equivalent of excel) to keep track of your paints.

I could make you an app that just has 2 links, one that links you to google sheets and another that links you to google docs

Saying there is no point because Notepad exists is like saying there is no point in photoshop because MS paint exists.

You can pretty much make anything in MS paint. But photoshop has a better interface and more powerful and intuitive tools to help with the process.

I have a note pad and a pen. Not software. I could also have software and it would be basically the same thing as that note pad. Or there could be software made for the express purpose that has the tools that make it intuitive, powerful, and simple to compile a list of paints and products, arrange them in order of use with notes for technique and save them in individual profiles for keeping track of how you did what. Maybe even then allowing you to group them by army or whatever.

I would love to have good software built for the express purpose of ease of use and organization of my paint processes. Yeah. Note pad is functional enough. Yeah. A piece of paper and a pencil is too. But purpose built software would be better.

 Lance845 wrote:
You mean hue. Not shade.

Hue is the colors of the rainbow.

Shade is adding black

Tone is adding grey.

Tint is adding white.

Also i dont need a paint catalog or a app with guides. I need a app that allows me to record my own painting process and save them so that when i walk away from an army for a bit and return to it i can remember how the hell i did that.

I stand corrected. Nevertheless that doesn't change the fact, that Citadel App doesn't allow to sort their catalogue by any of those parameters, only by their totaly random names, so deciding on exact pot of any colour can get tedious.


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 Lance845 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
I do currently keep a note pad (after forgetting a couple things in the past). But an app that acted as inventory and such along with being able to create a process/technique log would be ideal.

I still don't really understand the need. You can use notepad on your phone/tablet/computer/whatever and then use excel (or an online equivalent of excel) to keep track of your paints.

I could make you an app that just has 2 links, one that links you to google sheets and another that links you to google docs

Saying there is no point because Notepad exists is like saying there is no point in photoshop because MS paint exists.

You can pretty much make anything in MS paint. But photoshop has a better interface and more powerful and intuitive tools to help with the process.

I have a note pad and a pen. Not software. I could also have software and it would be basically the same thing as that note pad. Or there could be software made for the express purpose that has the tools that make it intuitive, powerful, and simple to compile a list of paints and products, arrange them in order of use with notes for technique and save them in individual profiles for keeping track of how you did what. Maybe even then allowing you to group them by army or whatever.

I would love to have good software built for the express purpose of ease of use and organization of my paint processes. Yeah. Note pad is functional enough. Yeah. A piece of paper and a pencil is too. But purpose built software would be better.

You could imagine said app having a database of public user profiles sorted by army or dominant colour or whatever used in the process, so you could look through other people workflows to improve your own...

 Lance845 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
I do currently keep a note pad (after forgetting a couple things in the past). But an app that acted as inventory and such along with being able to create a process/technique log would be ideal.

I still don't really understand the need. You can use notepad on your phone/tablet/computer/whatever and then use excel (or an online equivalent of excel) to keep track of your paints.

I could make you an app that just has 2 links, one that links you to google sheets and another that links you to google docs

Saying there is no point because Notepad exists is like saying there is no point in photoshop because MS paint exists.

You can pretty much make anything in MS paint. But photoshop has a better interface and more powerful and intuitive tools to help with the process.

I have a note pad and a pen. Not software. I could also have software and it would be basically the same thing as that note pad. Or there could be software made for the express purpose that has the tools that make it intuitive, powerful, and simple to compile a list of paints and products, arrange them in order of use with notes for technique and save them in individual profiles for keeping track of how you did what. Maybe even then allowing you to group them by army or whatever.

I would love to have good software built for the express purpose of ease of use and organization of my paint processes. Yeah. Note pad is functional enough. Yeah. A piece of paper and a pencil is too. But purpose built software would be better.

Honestly I still just don't see it

The difference in functionality between MS paint and photoshop is phenomenal, it's nowhere near a comparison. 10's if not hundreds of effects that don't exist in MS Paint, layers, filters, rotation tool, colour/brightness/contrast manipulation, scaling features with decent pixel interpolation/extrapolation... the list of functionality differences between MS paint and photoshop is immense. Short of manipulating pictures on a pixel by pixel basis you absolutely cannot "pretty much make anything" in paint like you can in photoshop.

By contrast I don't see what functionality gets added by having an app that lets you record your painting technique that isn't already covered by a bunch of existing organiser programs. Wanna know how I paint my BB Skaven? Bam...

Wanna know my Night Goblins? bada bing bada boom

DKOK? Boom...

Perhaps my Lizardmen? Kapow!

I just start a text file when I start painting a model, name it appropriately for what I'm painting, add to it as I paint the model and because modern technology is so awesome I have them saved and can view those notes on my phone, on my computer, my ipad, whatever (which is the functionality you gain over using a pen + paper).

If there weren't already a bunch of programs that allow you to create notes and organise those notes then maybe I could see your point, but where's the functionality to be had?

As I said earlier maybe if you could maybe link it to actual photos of your models maybe there'd be a bit of functionality there, but I think that'd mostly be useful for commission painters who might have 20 different ways of painting "ultramarines" that having a picture would be useful so they can go back and recreate specific looks for different clients.

Just some examples of what some warlocks manage to do with MS paint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGOLqU8AZpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2g5qbvb7F4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8-gAnDw-7k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSuw-gLslCs