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Freakazoitt wrote: It's strange to me why it's so easy to show scenes of murders in movies, while love scenes or smoking are forbidden. in reality, we rarely encounter murders, but they are in every second movie.
is there any opinion on this?
You see plenty of sex in modern films. It goes hand in hand with the depictions of violent acts. Sex sells and violence is exciting. The Three "B"s: Blood, Boobs, and Bullets.
But the smoking part is easy to explain. And I won't get into that because of the ban on U.S. politics.
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Nostromodamus wrote: Weirdest censorship I became aware of when I moved to the US was the bleeping of "God" in the phrase "God Damn".
Blow a guy's head off, but don't take the Lord's name in vain!
Yeah, but those days are long over with. You even hear it on broadcast television on occasion.
So-called "standards" have flip-flopped when it comes to television. To name an example, back in the early 80's, when ABC showed edited versions of Live and Let Die, the word "ass" was muted out, or replaced with something less offensive to prime time viewers. However, when I watched a Bond marathon on a commercial cable channel back in the early 2000s, the cussing was back, but all instances of Sheriff Pepper's use of the word "boy" when referencing or addressing black characters was muted out. Which I found kind of strange and amusing at the same time.
Just goes to show that social morality, as reflected by media, is constantly in flux.
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Ahtman wrote: This isn't a new observation and has been around for awhile. There is a documentary about the MPAA and the ridiculousness of how films are rated.
Yep, the three posts above yours beat you to the same old obeservation.
Ahtman wrote: There was something said once about if you kiss a nipple it is rated X but if you cut off a nipple it is rated R. Anything homosexual gets hit pretty hard as well generally. A man and a woman kissing can be as low as G where as two males is almost always rated R.
It has been a decade or so since I last saw that documentary, but from what I recall the entire MPAA rating committee was made up of extremely conservative and religious leaning folks so not surprising that "gay stuff" would get hit with their equivalent of the ban hammer (X and R ratings can kill certain movies at the box office).
Just as an example, Adam Carolla's film The Hammer was given an R rating because it contained a few instances of the word feth. That movie came out in 2007. If you look at the list of R-rated movies from 2007 it is hilarious if you compare the rather benign boxing/romantic comedy that is The Hammer with movies like Death Proof, Hostel 2, Hannibal Rising, and 28 Weeks Later.
It isn't American society that's puritanical. Look at what's happened in prestige TV, on HBO, Netflix etc. There's a ridiculous amount of nudity and sex, and much if not most is entirely gratuitous. The US has responded by making that the fastest growing media segment.
It's the MPAA that's puritanical, threatening R ratings on movies for minimal sex, but permitting high levels of violence. Those ratings impact the public's perception of the movie, and even what cinemas will show the movie. So studios accept that's the game, and they make their movies accordingly.
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Nostromodamus wrote: Weirdest censorship I became aware of when I moved to the US was the bleeping of "God" in the phrase "God Damn".
Blow a guy's head off, but don't take the Lord's name in vain!
The best censorship of all time happened in Walmart accepted version of The Big Lebowski. There's a line said over and over again in one scene, 'this is what happens when you feth a stranger in the ass.' That was a bit rude for Walmart to put in their stores, so it was dubbed to be 'this is what happens when you fight a stranger in the Alps'.
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Elbows wrote: If we ignore the craziness that is the MPAA (literally a self-devised made-up group of people who arbitrarily choose what to rate films...really bizarre institution) it's pretty simple. US big-budget films are essentially diluted to be the highest-grossing, least-offending films they can manage to earn big dollars.
True. And one big reason they've become so bland recently is the rise of the international box office. It used to be that US films only had to meet US cultural sensitivities because the only box office the studios cared about was the US. But now the international market and especially China are hugely important to a film's success. Which means you don't dare offend anyone's sensibilities, and the result are incredibly inoffensive, boring blockbusters.
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Ahtman wrote: There was something said once about if you kiss a nipple it is rated X but if you cut off a nipple it is rated R. Anything homosexual gets hit pretty hard as well generally. A man and a woman kissing can be as low as G where as two males is almost always rated R.
Probably the most surreal thing I've seen on tv was how a sex change operation was shown. They were transitioning from man to woman, and they were showing the boob operation. So we saw a man's chest, and the nipples were fine to show without censor. Then they went under anesthetic, and they cut the nipples off, no censoring needed. They installed the implants, and it was fine to show that. They relocated the nipples, still fine to show. Then they started inflating the implants, one pump and it was still fine, then a second pump and boom, now it was a woman's chest and the nipples had to be censored. Amazing.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
sebster wrote: Probably the most surreal thing I've seen on tv was how a sex change operation was shown. They were transitioning from man to woman, and they were showing the boob operation. So we saw a man's chest, and the nipples were fine to show without censor. Then they went under anesthetic, and they cut the nipples off, no censoring needed. They installed the implants, and it was fine to show that. They relocated the nipples, still fine to show. Then they started inflating the implants, one pump and it was still fine, then a second pump and boom, now it was a woman's chest and the nipples had to be censored. Amazing.
It is like that old joke Philosophy departments use to just kind of get heads moving by asking how many legs you have to cut off a table before it just becomes a board. Actually I am probably remembering it wrong but the idea still stands. I am old.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
It is like that old joke Philosophy departments use to just kind of get heads moving by asking how many legs you have to cut off a table before it just becomes a board. Actually I am probably remembering it wrong but the idea still stands. I am old.
I always liked the one about replacing parts of the axe.
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Freakazoitt wrote: It's strange to me why it's so easy to show scenes of murders in movies, while love scenes or smoking are forbidden. in reality, we rarely encounter murders, but they are in every second movie.
is there any opinion on this?
You see plenty of sex in modern films. It goes hand in hand with the depictions of violent acts. Sex sells and violence is exciting. The Three "B"s: Blood, Boobs, and Bullets.
But the smoking part is easy to explain. And I won't get into that because of the ban on U.S. politics.
It’s not really US politics. Lots of places around the world have bans on showing or glamorising smoking in the media. Therefor the only place you will see it is when it is show in a bad light, normally someone who has lung disease or cancer, as a shorthand for someone who has lived a hard life and is about to die.
insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
I have thought about this before. It is not necessary for there to be some many graphic murders in movies. There are clever ways to display murders without having be so graphic about them. Murders just de-sensitize people to the violence. It is not needed. We have good enough imaginations that we don't need to portray murder scenes on movies. Now when it comes to killing such as in war movies, I loved Robotech. Lots of Zentraedi were killed. That was cool. So I am a hypocrite. Live with it! LOL
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