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**UnstableDominus**

AoS certainly has a smaller player base than 40K, but in my neck of the woods it has been picking up steam. We have a quickly growing group at my store in Tokyo and we had a growing group when I lived back in the states. I've also noticed that the major tournaments (like Adepticon) have seen significant increases in participation for their AoS events.

The generals handbook made a strong coherent game (with, I would argue, a better ally/list restriction and allegiance mechanic than 40K offers) and the most recent fiction ( https://malignportents.com/stories/ ) has done wonders building an evocative cohesive setting.

**Lord Kragan**

Backspacehacker wrote:
Baron Klatz wrote:
Well the global events let both happen.

In anycase I hardly see it as a problem, if you want it static then just pick a point in the timeline and stick to it there. If you want to still be involved with the current lore then either pick/head-canon an area away from all the changes and action or justify why your homeland is in stasis.

Example would be wanting a ruined kingdom in the fire realm during the Age of Chaos. You love the barbaric struggles and your knights and soldiers desperately battling raiders and monsters amongst the ruins and outposts while the countryside is overrun by daemons. The timeframe advancing to the Age of Hope threatens this so you justify this hellish struggle continuing as the dark gods either use the lands as prime recruiting ground for mighty warriors or there's priceless artifacts still unearthed in the land so they cast their power over the borders that turn away all but the bravest mortals and blind the gods that try to gaze into it. Thus now a stasis land that can keep with the timeline, have new daring armies introduced and stay the same all at once.

It all comes down to the player and his imagination in the end.

Problem is you cant just "Pick a point in time." because the point in time people want is the one that got completely axed from the game. I agree we can all pick a point say prior to the world ending and leave it there, but the setting is completetly invalidated because GW has said, its gone. It also does not help that the AoS community is one of the worst communities when it comes to old players. I have never once seen a community as bad as the AoS one when it comes to players that just say, "I dont like AoS i enjoyed Fantasy." Or god for bid, you tell them, "I play a legacy army or keep them on square bases." Is like a personal insult to AoS players. So my choices are to get wit hthe time with a setting that i really dont enjoy at all, or get gak posted on by AoS for not liking cosmic fantasy.

Ill take option three which is go with my small group of players that just ignore everything GW is doing in the setting, which, is why we see AoS struggling, because the power house market for it, old players with cash to burn, arnt coming back.

That's some very nice head canon you have there. To be frank, I have only seen one place where the community that proactively shunned squares and that was in 4chan. and it's generally frowned upon even there.

**auticus**

Tournaments over here shun square bases, and if your group is also a tournament group they will therefore also shun square bases.

It is an issue I also deal with because I won't rebase my collection and the tournaments around here at the very best heavily discourage instead of outright ban squares, and a lot of people that play you wiill still gripe that you are somehow cheating them.

The narrative campaiigns I run actively allow squares to counter-balance that, which leads to interesting clashes between tournament oriented players and casuals.

**Lord Kragan**

auticus wrote:
Tournaments over here shun square bases, and if your group is also a tournament group they will therefore also shun square bases.

It is an issue I also deal with because I won't rebase my collection and the tournaments around here at the very best heavily discourage instead of outright ban squares, and a lot of people that play you wiill still gripe that you are somehow cheating them.

The narrative campaiigns I run actively allow squares to counter-balance that, which leads to interesting clashes between tournament oriented players and casuals.

That's an entirely different kettle of fish, though.

Squares, in this case, are discouraged because they can allow for more egregious min-maxing of weapons and hordes (regardless of it being in truth the case, which all too often isn't).

**Baron Klatz**

Well I'm sorry to hear your local community is like that, Backspace. :(

I do wish you don't project it everywhere like that because I do know many groups who roll with older armies and square bases and just playing for fun. As has been said above there's many different community metas, sounds like you got a toxic one. :(

I don't see why you can't play in the World That Was either, GW still support the IP by giving it out to videogame companies and now Cubicle7 for a new rpg line. They're even bringing back more and more books in their chronicle section of the Black Library.

It's all comes down to imagination again and they give plenty of inspirations for it.

Also you're wrong on old players not coming back, just check Reddit or TGA, there's people ranging 5-20 years of putting warhammer on a break coming back because of the fun system and a new lore starting point that puts everyone on equal footing, not to mention the flood of new people and hobbyists that see AoS book in popularity and success.

**Unit1126PLL**

My friends play Age of Sigmar in the world that was, because one guy has a YUUUUGE skaven army, so they essentially are playing through the last days of the end times. Not sure if they're going to ever put their personal storylines on hold, or if they're eventually going to play through the Age of Myth, but it sounds fun from what I overhear in our chat.

**Baron Klatz**

Haha, that sounds fun. End Times main battles with ShadeSpire/Skirmish Vermintide.

Did they see on TGA that someone converted the End Times scenarios for AoS use?

**Unit1126PLL**

Baron Klatz wrote:
Haha, that sounds fun. End Times main battles with ShadeSpire/Skirmish Vermintide.

Did they see on TGA that someone converted the End Times scenarios for AoS use?

No but I will let them know! They're a fairly insular group, perfectly comfortable making up their own stuff on the fly.

**Baron Klatz**

My favorite kind of group!

Let the fun and narratives flow!

**AegisGrimm**

I really have no problem with personal headcanons allowing groups to have their AoS games set pre-End Times. A Fyreslayers army would make a really fun Karak Khadrin (sp?) Slayer force rampaging across the Old World, or Sylvaneth leaving the borders of Athel Loren, and frankly many of the WHFB armies would make more sense not using block unit tactics.