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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

Fluff-wise, what are some ideas that could justify using Lizardmen Skinks as Eldar Rangers?

I am thinking that they could be mercenaries similar to the Dark Eldar Sslyth.
I could "tech-up" their blowpipes and paint them camo colored, saying their scales can camo like a chameleon.
Maybe have 1 Eldar "leader" in each unit calling shots? Like a Beast Master?
It could be a species native to an Exodite world?

Any thoughts?




Side note, this has 2 purposes:
A) getting quick and cheap Rangers. 1 box would get 4+ units of Rangers and
B) I like the Lizardmen aesthetic and have always wanted to add them to 40k without dedicating an entire army to the idea

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Perhaps a lower caste of the Old Ones who survived the War in Heaven?

But that really is suspending disbelief imho.

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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Yeah...nothing I can think of would be reasonable, at all.
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

 Elbows wrote:
Yeah...nothing I can think of would be reasonable, at all.

Really? Not even reptilian mercenaries native to an Exodite world that have been "conscripted" into service by a fringe Craftworld?
I thought the DE Sslyth would have been precedence enough for that at least

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Horrific Hive Tyrant





Eldar have no problem using other races if it's to their advantage. They've also been known to capture and experiment on other Xenos races for the purposes of weaponising them in some way.

Also, they really really don't like losing Eldar lives for any reason.

So yeah, say they are native xenos who they've installed some sort of mind control tech to their brains and are using them as cannon fodder. I'd buy that!
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

Stux wrote:
Eldar have no problem using other races if it's to their advantage. They've also been known to capture and experiment on other Xenos races for the purposes of weaponising them in some way.

Also, they really really don't like losing Eldar lives for any reason.

This is what made me think of the idea. Currently, Rangers are used as sacrificial fodder to prevent turn 1 drops from getting to the more valuable units. Using actual Eldar for this purpose just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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Yeah some random xenos race used as fodder is probably about as fluffy as space marines killing off said xenos.

trixy eldars will do what they want/need.

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 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Ratlings would make more sense.
   
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Michigan

I think it makes perfect sense. in the universe that is 40k there are PLENTY of xenos creatures. I dont see any reason (so long as their modeled correctly) why eldar wouldn't use lizrdmen as auxiliaries (similar to tau) I mean, the exodies ride raptors right? what's the difference?

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Powerful Phoenix Lord





I just don't buy into the Skinks w/ blow darts making a reasonable representation of an Eldar scout. Cloaked up Kroot with a sniper rifle added to the scope?

While you may be able to justify it in the fluff, running into Skinks with blowguns in a normal 40K game would scream lazy to me, and not inventive.

Now if you modeled the hell out of them with green stuff, backpacks and a bunch of sci-fi kit...maaybe...just maybe.
   
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Dallas area, TX

Cool, thanks gang.

Now I just have to figure out how to "tech up" the Skinks.
I have some extra Splinter rifle barrels that I could add to the skink blowpipes. I'm ok not to have them with actual sniper rifles, as they could use different technology. I'll have to scrounge through my bits box and see want kind of Eldar looking small bits I have in abundance.

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Maybe skitari ranger rifles?

Kroot arms would probably look the most reptilian though.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Screamin' Stormboy




Australia

It could work if they were mercenaries of some sort, employed by the eldar.
I would really like to see lizardmen in 40k.

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i think these are infact kroot arms so its doable for sure.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

 Desubot wrote:
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i think these are infact kroot arms so its doable for sure.

Indeed those are Kroot arms, but they are also Saurus Warriors, not Skinks, which are a bit larger than a normal Eldar. But definitely food for thought, so thanx for finding the awesome pic!

For now I am going to see what I have in my bits box (I already know I have plenty of DE splinter rifle barrels).

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Screaming Shining Spear





USA

waaaay back in the day RT or shortly thereafter I think there was an imperium book that had drawings of different races.

I believe there was a lizardman style race. I do think they were wiped out by the Imperium....but it was so long ago.

Anyone know more of this?

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Not just drawings, there were models for Space Slann...

http://www.solegends.com/citrt2/tsf18slann/index.htm

I had Capt. Haxl!

I think there are all manner of minor races and mercenaries in 40k and Skinks with a bit of conversion work would be fine.
   
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Screaming Shining Spear




Russia, Moscow

Fluff-wise, Craftworlds do not use mercenaries. Rangers are eldar who do not walk a path (or walk path of Outcast as they say), traveling in the void, yet returning to defend Craftworld/Exodites, as they keep their equipment at the ready (rifles, cameleo cloaks, survival gear) for that on their ship.

It would only work in a wholly exodite army - but still, barely. Eldar are quite racist after all.

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For Exodites, I really like it. My Exodite force is heavily into pre-fall gene modifications anyway, with their Scorpion equivalent using dragon organs to spit fire or acid at enemies in place of mandiblasters, so a group of Warriors going even further to allow themselves unfettered access behind enemy lines (or simply for more efficient hunting in day to day life) sounds good to me.

Take a look at what I've been painting and modelling: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/725222.page 
   
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As actually Rangers, no, because Rangers are Eldar on the Path of the Outcast. As some alien Lizard Men who have agreed to work with/ manipulated into fighting for a Craftworld and that just happen to use the same rules as Rangers, then yeah why not.
   
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Dallas area, TX

 Imateria wrote:
As actually Rangers, no, because Rangers are Eldar on the Path of the Outcast. As some alien Lizard Men who have agreed to work with/ manipulated into fighting for a Craftworld and that just happen to use the same rules as Rangers, then yeah why not.

That's....obviously what I meant. I would not say reptilian creatures would be ACTUAL Rangers that lived on a Craftworld and were given the same wargear. That would be ridiculous indeed.
But yes, alien mercenaries "conscripted" into serving CWE using the same rules as Rangers. Either in the same vein as DE SSlyth, or lead by an ACTUAL Ranger model in the same way DE Beastmasters gourd their beasts into combat.

My CWE are already built to be more Corsair-like, so using similar methods as some DE fit my personal army's fluff

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