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These are some great new models, loving the armchair speeder, I asked for that about three years ago and my wish is finally granted!
The termite is great as well, hopefully this means that they will revisit some other Epic models at some point, I'm looking at you, cute little round drop pods...
No, the termite we saw yesterday is boring.
It's just a standard drop pod, biggerized for dreadnoughts. I'd expect it to be plain. Hopefully you can physically fit a dreadnought inside it, too.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
Gotta say this news changes a few things. I'm very excited that Forge World is shooting for a 2018 release of Book VIII. There is some disappointment as I was really looking forward to an "Angels of Death" kinda codex with Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Dark Mechanum in one book. If splitting them up allows Forge World to get stuff out quicker, then I'm all for it.
Each Legion has been detailed so far with their Primarch, two unique units, sometimes a vehicle, and a couple characters. The Blood Angels Destroyer Squads make sense given Baal's reputation as having a ton of radiation, and (Spoiler alert!) might be the template Blood Angels base the Death Company on later. The other squad will probably be some kind of Veteran Assault Squad very similar to the Sanguinary Guard. My best "package" of Sons of Horus is a Destroyer Squad with jump packs and missile launcher, with a Moritat with Jump Pack that due a lot of bad, bad things to my opponent.
That little tid bit about Sanguinius being one of the better melee Primarchs really has me interested in what that means. Certainly, all the Primarchs are beat sticks in melee, but I see the top three as Horus, Russ, and then a tie between Angron and Vulkin. Surprisingly enough, the cheapest Primarch, Fulgrim, if he charges and fights a challenge, can do very well. I didn't include Magnus, simply because he can be OP, or useless depending on the psychic powers he gets. It will be very interesting to see how they get Sanguinius into that top 4. Horus and Russ use stat manipulation, and if the combat goes beyond two rounds, they make their opponents really hurt with a combination of concussive, reduced S, reduced WS, and hit penalties. Angron and Vulkin just use superior stats and weapons. Can't wait to see his wings and flowing, long locks of hair that make Fulgrim jealous!
The new/old Speeder just strikes me as absurd. Two guys sitting in the front, now windscreen or anything to deflect the air, acting like bolter magnets... yeah, I'll be passing on that.
Mole Machines just remind me far too much of Journey to the Center of the Earth or the Mole Men from Time Machine.
The AM Transport looks great!
Alphurious doesn't look bad. I like his helmet, and is the first Primarch with a helmet, so we never know what he looks like. Unfortunately, due to his 'One of Many' rule, he won't be seeing much time on the table.
The Alpha Legion Terminators have a sweet look about them.
And Dorn? Perfect. Well, maybe except for the chainsword. But otherwise, great. Love the pose, love the model.
Really looking forward to Book VIII, especially if it comes out this year! My pessimistic predictions for Book VIII before this was 2020. Hearing FW say 2018 fills me with joy, and I hope it means summer 2018, and not winter 2018.
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Book 8 will be winter 2018 if they do manage to get it out this year. I don’t think they have that much done yet based on what people from the seminar were saying.
Yeah it'll be late this year. Main reason they have continued to struggle after Alan, is specialist games stealing all of the sculpting time. Hence why DA and dark mechanicum being the two to be pushed back as they want a ton of new models for those two. BA and WS will be more standard so quicker to get the models done.
They talked about the Angel being a living symbol so he'll also be a major force modifier like Roboute as well as awesome in combat. Khan will be on a bike and on foot, they said no point otherwise. WS getting their own jet bike variant...
Today they said new 40k titan is coming, but would not say anything else about it. My guess is that Titanicus has all new variant and it'll come from that. They talked about doing all the titanicus titans as computer sculpts so could just port them and their new weapon options, which they also said are coming to 40k.
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Today they said new 40k titan is coming, but would not say anything else about it. My guess is that Titanicus has all new variant and it'll come from that. They talked about doing all the titanicus titans as computer sculpts so could just port them and their new weapon options, which they also said are coming to 40k.
That little tid bit about Sanguinius being one of the better melee Primarchs really has me interested in what that means. Certainly, all the Primarchs are beat sticks in melee, but I see the top three as Horus, Russ, and then a tie between Angron and Vulkin. Surprisingly enough, the cheapest Primarch, Fulgrim, if he charges and fights a challenge, can do very well. I didn't include Magnus, simply because he can be OP, or useless depending on the psychic powers he gets. It will be very interesting to see how they get Sanguinius into that top 4. Horus and Russ use stat manipulation, and if the combat goes beyond two rounds, they make their opponents really hurt with a combination of concussive, reduced S, reduced WS, and hit penalties. Angron and Vulkin just use superior stats and weapons. Can't wait to see his wings and flowing, long locks of hair that make Fulgrim jealous!
Wait. They didn’t change the 30k rules so you can choose your psychic powers? Did they change anything to the mess that is 7th when they had the chance?
Looky Likey wrote:
Today they said new 40k titan is coming, but would not say anything else about it. My guess is that Titanicus has all new variant and it'll come from that. They talked about doing all the titanicus titans as computer sculpts so could just port them and their new weapon options, which they also said are coming to 40k.
IIRC there were rumours that FW were looking to expand the old 1st ed Adaptus Titanicus Warlord variants(Nemesis, Nightgaunt ect) into distinct classes for there reboot.
Um, no, Nemesis is perfectly ordinary one found in many normal Legios. Psytitans are Warlord-Sinister class, something completely different...
Oops! You are correct, the psytitan is the Sinister. The Nemesis wasn't a bog-standard Warlord though. I think it was a heavier variant, which was more powerful. There was at least one in the big Titan battle on Calth.
ChargerIIC wrote: If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
That little tid bit about Sanguinius being one of the better melee Primarchs really has me interested in what that means. Certainly, all the Primarchs are beat sticks in melee, but I see the top three as Horus, Russ, and then a tie between Angron and Vulkin. Surprisingly enough, the cheapest Primarch, Fulgrim, if he charges and fights a challenge, can do very well. I didn't include Magnus, simply because he can be OP, or useless depending on the psychic powers he gets. It will be very interesting to see how they get Sanguinius into that top 4. Horus and Russ use stat manipulation, and if the combat goes beyond two rounds, they make their opponents really hurt with a combination of concussive, reduced S, reduced WS, and hit penalties. Angron and Vulkin just use superior stats and weapons. Can't wait to see his wings and flowing, long locks of hair that make Fulgrim jealous!
Wait. They didn’t change the 30k rules so you can choose your psychic powers? Did they change anything to the mess that is 7th when they had the chance?
This and that but generally no need to fix anything when you had already rules better than thye dumbster fire that 8th ed is.
RiTides wrote: Could someone point me towards the actual name of the "mole tank" and who can field it, if this is known? I've only seen a pic but it looks awesome!
Um, no, Nemesis is perfectly ordinary one found in many normal Legios. Psytitans are Warlord-Sinister class, something completely different...
Oops! You are correct, the psytitan is the Sinister. The Nemesis wasn't a bog-standard Warlord though. I think it was a heavier variant, which was more powerful. There was at least one in the big Titan battle on Calth.
Nemesis is sort of an "upgunned" warlord apparently.
Nemesis would be kind of cool (but I hope not since it would be out of my budget for a while). Other possibilities would be a smaller titan, maybe another scout like the Subjugator? But my guess is that the "new titan" will be the Chaos Warlord.
Re AT Titan variants. They were categorised by how many weapon hardpoints were used and how ‘big’ those weapons were. A weapons ‘grade’ was generally how many dice you rolled when you attacked with it, though a melee weapon counted as either 2 or 3 for this and a very heavy weapon was either 3 or 4, I think (though with just the one ‘attack’). Can’t remember the support missile value. This is dusting off some VERY old memories but it went something like this:
Total weapon grade loadout Grade 1-4 Nightgaunt - ‘light’ Warlord. Typically close combat arm and a low-grade ‘heavy’ weapon in the other. Fastest and most manoeuvrable (as in, I think it got an extra free 45 degree turn at some point - don’t quote me here though!)
Grades 5-8 / 9-12 Eclipse / Deathbringer - Both arms and a carapace hardpoint used. May have been a ‘very heavy’ weapon (ie defence laser, macro cannon or plasma cannon) but that would limit how heavily graded those could be.
I’ve lumped these two together as they were very similar but I can’t remember exactly which way round they were.
Grades 13-16 Nemesis - the gunboat. Obviously tended to use ALL the hardpoints and you could usually guarantee at least one VHW in there somewhere. Slowest and least manoeuvrable, in that it was allowed to make the least number of turns during its movement (I don’t think it could pivot at all on First Fire orders, for instance, where all other classes could swivel 45 degrees).
If there is any further interest I think I still have a copy of the rulebook somewhere - or at least the Codex Titanicus expansion - that I could dig out somewhere, but no promises...
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I'd be surprised if it was as large as the Warlord as Tony talked about that not being easy to game with and needing special planning to use when people asked about the Imperator both for 40k and Titanicus. I'm personally thinking it will either be between the Warhound and Reaver in size or be an up gunned (and slightly larger) Reaver. With the larger Knights approaching Warhound size it wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to reflect that to give them more scope between Knights and the Scout Titans.
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