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In unrelated news, the Centaur Artillery Tractor is now back in stock after being unavailable for about 6 months:

   
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 Haighus wrote:
 farmersboy wrote:
... a pose that looks like he just run into a plate glass window?

Now I can't unsee this

I(


Me too! I laughed out loud at that description - thank you, Farmersboy...


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 BrookM wrote:
First FW release of the new year, let the whining commence: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Space-Wolves-Legion-Praetor-2018



I see it as a replacement for this model, personally:
   
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The fur on the Ragnar model is better.

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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Spac Wolf upgrade (curtesy of Battle Bunnies)





   
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That is some of the nicest space wolf gear I've seen in a long time.
Its a really strong space - vikings theme.
Also, I really like the paintjobs on these particular pieces.

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...for the love of god can we drop the flipping jokes?
They might go over peoples heads....
 
   
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I love how the axes don’t look ludicrously large.
   
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I love that upgrade kit. the chest armour is superb. will definetly be getting one of them.

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Those are surprisingly okay, the leather masks look a bit goofy IMHO though.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

I love that they have wooden handles

Those are some lovely bitz though.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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I like the masks. One of them looks like there's a braid hanging out of his mouth though.
   
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Those are awesome! Some of the best Space Wolves stuff IMO, I love the shields!

The quality of those upgrade parts makes the poor Praetor look even worse by comparison :/


 ChargerIIC wrote:
If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
 Bruticus wrote:
I really just wanted to make this exact model and I don't know what I would do if he turned out to be a smelly, one-legged frog with a shotgun p*nis.
I still don't understand the context of this phrase... but Slaanesh! 
   
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Anyone else notice the gun has no grip on the Praetor's hand? Similar to the chainsword that looks like they've glued the top and bottom onto a fist.

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Thamor wrote:
Anyone else notice the gun has no grip on the Praetor's hand? Similar to the chainsword that looks like they've glued the top and bottom onto a fist.


Shh..they were hoping no one would notice.

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So I really do like those shields.. but the axe.. why would you place a wolf head above the blade?
To me it seems that would prevent the blade from doing it's job.

Maybe I'm wrong on that, but to me it feels like a blade below the head of a mace makes no sense.

But then I'm not a Space Wolf player and may not understand all their Wolfy secret weapon stuff.
   
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 Iron Angel wrote:
So I really do like those shields.. but the axe.. why would you place a wolf head above the blade?
To me it seems that would prevent the blade from doing it's job.

Maybe I'm wrong on that, but to me it feels like a blade below the head of a mace makes no sense.

But then I'm not a Space Wolf player and may not understand all their Wolfy secret weapon stuff.


Most of what GW design doesn't actually make sense, but you have to ignore that...

"Bloody typical, they've gone back to metric without telling us."

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh haven't you?"

"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"

"Mind the oranges Marlon!" 
   
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Yeah, the way they sculpt chainswords, with a single row of hooked teeth each two fingers wide and tall, would not work in the slightest, not least because of the adverse torque.
Even Frostfang and similar blades with triangular teeth have severe issues but at least this you could claim are actually two counter-rotating sets that just happen to have been caught in perfect alignment (or ‘park’ in that position when the blade is deactivated).

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instead of leather hats it should've been like the helmet from Skyrim.

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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The leather masks feature prominently in the HH novels I've seen which include Space Wolves so I guess they felt compelled to make some.

 
   
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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, the way they sculpt chainswords, with a single row of hooked teeth each two fingers wide and tall, would not work in the slightest, not least because of the adverse torque.
Even Frostfang and similar blades with triangular teeth have severe issues but at least this you could claim are actually two counter-rotating sets that just happen to have been caught in perfect alignment (or ‘park’ in that position when the blade is deactivated).


Chain swords are a good case in point - they are an absolutely ridiculous weapon. A sword is primarily a stabbing weapon, but if you ignore that you are still left with what is basically a chain saw, not the ideal weapon for hacking through an opponent when you have power swords.

Still, all in the name of grimdark eh?

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"Bloody typical, they've gone back to metric without telling us."

"As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh haven't you?"

"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"

"Mind the oranges Marlon!" 
   
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 farmersboy wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, the way they sculpt chainswords, with a single row of hooked teeth each two fingers wide and tall, would not work in the slightest, not least because of the adverse torque.
Even Frostfang and similar blades with triangular teeth have severe issues but at least this you could claim are actually two counter-rotating sets that just happen to have been caught in perfect alignment (or ‘park’ in that position when the blade is deactivated).


Chain swords are a good case in point - they are an absolutely ridiculous weapon. A sword is primarily a stabbing weapon, but if you ignore that you are still left with what is basically and chain saw, not the ideal weapon for hacking through an opponent when you have power swords.

Still, all in the name of grimdark eh?


I completely disagree with your statement that a sword is primarily a stabbing weapon, but totally agree that chainswords are ridiculous. That’s part of their charm.
   
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 farmersboy wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, the way they sculpt chainswords, with a single row of hooked teeth each two fingers wide and tall, would not work in the slightest, not least because of the adverse torque.
Even Frostfang and similar blades with triangular teeth have severe issues but at least this you could claim are actually two counter-rotating sets that just happen to have been caught in perfect alignment (or ‘park’ in that position when the blade is deactivated).


A sword is primarily a stabbing weapon.



Not really. It depends on the sword use. Sabres are primarily slashing weapons, long swords can be used for both, rapiers are primarily thrusting, etc.

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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
 farmersboy wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, the way they sculpt chainswords, with a single row of hooked teeth each two fingers wide and tall, would not work in the slightest, not least because of the adverse torque.
Even Frostfang and similar blades with triangular teeth have severe issues but at least this you could claim are actually two counter-rotating sets that just happen to have been caught in perfect alignment (or ‘park’ in that position when the blade is deactivated).


Chain swords are a good case in point - they are an absolutely ridiculous weapon. A sword is primarily a stabbing weapon, but if you ignore that you are still left with what is basically and chain saw, not the ideal weapon for hacking through an opponent when you have power swords.

Still, all in the name of grimdark eh?


I completely disagree with your statement that a sword is primarily a stabbing weapon, but totally agree that chainswords are ridiculous. That’s part of their charm.


Eh, I can see chainswords being useful against targets with dense / tough flesh.
Stabbing is only good if the blow hits deep enough to hit a vital organ, and slashing is only good if the strike can cause mass bleeding, maiming or manage to bite hard enough in to high something precious.
If you're dealing with something that has tough flesh, then stabs might not pierce deep enough and slashes might not cause sufficient damage.
Power swords aren't really a logistically solution, because those are expensive and need a strong power source, iirc. Cheaper to make a chainsaw in sword form, which can just grind through that tough flesh and cause severe physiological damage.

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 farmersboy wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, the way they sculpt chainswords, with a single row of hooked teeth each two fingers wide and tall, would not work in the slightest, not least because of the adverse torque.
Even Frostfang and similar blades with triangular teeth have severe issues but at least this you could claim are actually two counter-rotating sets that just happen to have been caught in perfect alignment (or ‘park’ in that position when the blade is deactivated).


A sword is primarily a stabbing weapon.



Not really. It depends on the sword use. Sabres are primarily slashing weapons, long swords can be used for both, rapiers are primarily thrusting, etc.



Indeed. I’ve often wondered if powerswords are as impractical as say lightsabers, in that you can’t grasp them by the blade and use halfsword techniques.
   
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 farmersboy wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, the way they sculpt chainswords, with a single row of hooked teeth each two fingers wide and tall, would not work in the slightest, not least because of the adverse torque.
Even Frostfang and similar blades with triangular teeth have severe issues but at least this you could claim are actually two counter-rotating sets that just happen to have been caught in perfect alignment (or ‘park’ in that position when the blade is deactivated).


A sword is primarily a stabbing weapon.



Not really. It depends on the sword use. Sabres are primarily slashing weapons, long swords can be used for both, rapiers are primarily thrusting, etc.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
 farmersboy wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, the way they sculpt chainswords, with a single row of hooked teeth each two fingers wide and tall, would not work in the slightest, not least because of the adverse torque.
Even Frostfang and similar blades with triangular teeth have severe issues but at least this you could claim are actually two counter-rotating sets that just happen to have been caught in perfect alignment (or ‘park’ in that position when the blade is deactivated).


Chain swords are a good case in point - they are an absolutely ridiculous weapon. A sword is primarily a stabbing weapon, but if you ignore that you are still left with what is basically and chain saw, not the ideal weapon for hacking through an opponent when you have power swords.

Still, all in the name of grimdark eh?


I completely disagree with your statement that a sword is primarily a stabbing weapon, but totally agree that chainswords are ridiculous. That’s part of their charm.


Eh, I can see chainswords being useful against targets with dense / tough flesh.
Stabbing is only good if the blow hits deep enough to hit a vital organ, and slashing is only good if the strike can cause mass bleeding, maiming or manage to bite hard enough in to high something precious.
If you're dealing with something that has tough flesh, then stabs might not pierce deep enough and slashes might not cause sufficient damage.
Power swords aren't really a logistically solution, because those are expensive and need a strong power source, iirc. Cheaper to make a chainsaw in sword form, which can just grind through that tough flesh and cause severe physiological damage.

Indeed, and at each end of the spectrum you have small swords, which have no blade and cannot cut at all, and early falchions, which basically cannot stab (Elmsley type 1).

Some smithing group made a huge Blood Angels chainsword out of a converted chainsaw. It was too heavy to be wielded by a normal human, but it actually cut remarkably well (and quickly). Considering how it was constructed, it was also more resilient than I expected. I don't think chainswords are as impractical as they appear within the context of advanced tech, and crazy tough aliens as you point out. A saber is gonna struggle to incapacitate an ork.

A purpose designed chainsaw, with an adequate power source, would probably be reasonably useful for a superhuman in half a ton of strength-assisting armour to anchor them.
MonkeyBallistic wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 farmersboy wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:
Yeah, the way they sculpt chainswords, with a single row of hooked teeth each two fingers wide and tall, would not work in the slightest, not least because of the adverse torque.
Even Frostfang and similar blades with triangular teeth have severe issues but at least this you could claim are actually two counter-rotating sets that just happen to have been caught in perfect alignment (or ‘park’ in that position when the blade is deactivated).


A sword is primarily a stabbing weapon.



Not really. It depends on the sword use. Sabres are primarily slashing weapons, long swords can be used for both, rapiers are primarily thrusting, etc.



Indeed. I’ve often wondered if powerswords are as impractical as say lightsabers, in that you can’t grasp them by the blade and use halfsword techniques.

Is there much need? My understanding is that half-swording is primarily useful in fighting armoured opponents, where you cannot rely on the point and blade to wound the opponent, and need to essentially grapple the opponent into submission and precisely target weak points. To this end, the sword functions like a pointy crowbar. Power swords negate much of the effect of armour, so the need for half-swording is reduced.

Having said this, it depends on which bit of fluff you read- some seem to have the disruption field as an energy field vapourising stuff that touches the blade, but other fluff describes it more like an aura that basically softens stuff before the blade carves through it. The latter may be possible to grip with the precision Marines have.

 ChargerIIC wrote:
If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
 Bruticus wrote:
I really just wanted to make this exact model and I don't know what I would do if he turned out to be a smelly, one-legged frog with a shotgun p*nis.
I still don't understand the context of this phrase... but Slaanesh! 
   
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The 30K spacewolf aestetic really is on another level than the 40K one.

More or less everyone of those bare heads look appealing while I've seen maybe 3-4 heads ever from the multitudes of 40K SW's that doesn't look ridiculous.

   
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I wonder if FW will start selling the Custodes Contemptor body separately once the 40k codex arrives?
   
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 Haighus wrote:

Some smithing group made a huge Blood Angels chainsword out of a converted chainsaw. It was too heavy to be wielded by a normal human, but it actually cut remarkably well (and quickly). Considering how it was constructed, it was also more resilient than I expected. I don't think chainswords are as impractical as they appear within the context of advanced tech, and crazy tough aliens as you point out. A saber is gonna struggle to incapacitate an ork.


Huh? Interesting. Weight is no issue as even unarmoured marine is many times stronger than normal human and power armour just makes it even better to the point main point of weapon against say human is longer teach(human would be incapacitated by just sheer impact). Maybe the chainsword impracticality is actually false idea then.

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tneva82 wrote:
 Haighus wrote:

Some smithing group made a huge Blood Angels chainsword out of a converted chainsaw. It was too heavy to be wielded by a normal human, but it actually cut remarkably well (and quickly). Considering how it was constructed, it was also more resilient than I expected. I don't think chainswords are as impractical as they appear within the context of advanced tech, and crazy tough aliens as you point out. A saber is gonna struggle to incapacitate an ork.


Huh? Interesting. Weight is no issue as even unarmoured marine is many times stronger than normal human and power armour just makes it even better to the point main point of weapon against say human is longer teach(human would be incapacitated by just sheer impact). Maybe the chainsword impracticality is actually false idea then.

Weight is an issue- stength does not negate momentum. Even with infinite strength, if the chainsword is too heavy, the Marine will swing round it somewhat when he tries to swing the saw. Hence why I mentioned that the power armour is very heavy- this counters the weight of the chainsaw and actually would allow a Marine to wield a heavy melee weapon much better. Human chainswords would have to be considerably lighter.

I think even with the massively increased strengthof Marines over humans, it would be possible for humans to parry Marine weapon strikes- its a matter of levers. A weak but skilled fencer can block a blow from a very strong fencer because the strike hits at the end of the attacking blade, but near the hilt of the defending blade (if the attack was worth blocking at all). Having said this, there would be a degree of smashing through the block. I doubt this would be incapacitating, but it would be overwhelming against all but the most skilled, hardened humans.

When I say durable above, I men the teeth didn't fly off when they sawed wood (which is a lot tougher than flesh and living bone). However, they did not swing the thing into anything. I reckon a chainsword could be practical, but I doubt it would ever be the most practical melee weapon in an era that could produce it.

Anyway, despite being interesting, this is drifting off topic

 ChargerIIC wrote:
If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
 Bruticus wrote:
I really just wanted to make this exact model and I don't know what I would do if he turned out to be a smelly, one-legged frog with a shotgun p*nis.
I still don't understand the context of this phrase... but Slaanesh! 
   
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Has anybody got better pics of the imperial fists repulsor doors that went on sale at the weekend? h
Anybody know how much they are?
   
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Process wrote:
Has anybody got better pics of the imperial fists repulsor doors that went on sale at the weekend? h
Anybody know how much they are?


There's few pics about half way down the page here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Sd4BURqw-UE6SqnFMZwOmwvM5zG6BAHb


as for price, every other chapter's are £10, so probably that;
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/searchResults?qty=com.gamesworkshop.endeca.EndecaUserContext%401c6d4e87&sorting=&view=&Ntt=repulsor

 
   
 
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