NOVA Open 2018 - Washington DC - August 29 - September 2, 2018 - Only 18 of 112 Kill Team Spots Left

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**MVBrandt**

There are now only 18 spots left out of 112 in the Kill Team Tournaments.

**Hulksmash**

How do you get on the wait list for the kill teams? I'd be looking for Friday pods

**MVBrandt**

Once you actually log in, there'll be a wait list button with any sold out event.

**Hulksmash**

Gotcha, wasn't showing up on my phone yesterday when I checked but it works on the laptop so I'm added. Thanks

**MVBrandt**

If you don't get in I totally wanna hiijack you for Friday morning

**Hulksmash**

Lol, you can do that. I'm open friday since I'm doing aos this year. But I'll be coming in with andrew to hangout

**MVBrandt**

40K GT Attendees get something special ...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/siza7uDVgyr3kSh38

**MVBrandt**

Kill Team packet for NOVA:
https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Nova18_CompetPlay.pdf

**Das_Ubermike**

I understand that we can transfer a ticket to an event rather than receiving a refund, and since I'm unlikely to finish my army on time to participate, I would rather my ticket not go to waste. If anyone is interested in attending the 40K GT, PM me and I'll see about getting my ticket transferred over to you.

**Byte**

So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC? Even as a non-partcipant I'm getting spammed to donate.

A lot of us know most of the charitable contributions come from the silent auctions and vendors fees.

Why should I contribute? Having been solicited, that makes me a potential stake holder. Sell it.

**zedsdead**

Byte wrote:
So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?

So you start off your sentence with this line and you expect a friendly, respectful response ?!

Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ? or are you trying to bait some sort online discussion ? because frankly it appears this is your goal.

**MVBrandt**

zedsdead wrote:
Byte wrote:
So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?

So you start off your sentence with this line and you expect a friendly, respectful response ?!

Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ? or are you trying to bait some sort online discussion ? because frankly it appears this is your goal.

Well don't bite the bait, Ed!

**zedsdead**

MVBrandt wrote:
zedsdead wrote:
Byte wrote:
So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?

So you start off your sentence with this line and you expect a friendly, respectful response ?!

Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ? or are you trying to bait some sort online discussion ? because frankly it appears this is your goal.

Well don't bite the bait, Ed!

lol..fair enough

**Hulksmash**

I'ts ok Ed. I almost bit too

**zedsdead**

Hulksmash wrote:
I'ts ok Ed. I almost bit too

**Byte**

zedsdead wrote:
Byte wrote:
So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?

Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ?

I did do that. The Gent calmly explained to me the background and in and outs of the (turns out) global raffle. I now firmly understand the intent and these contributions for the raffle have no impact on prizes. Very smart NOCF. I apologize that I apparently came accross offensive. I feel my questions considering the information provided were appropriate. Now that someone in the know actually provided information and some helpful keystrokes. I realize I was way off base irt the charity raffle.

I'm glad someone took the time to explain. More of the same up to that point.

Again, please excuse my post and ignorance irt to the raffle. Its very clever and seems like a great effort supported by tons of charitable gamers. Pretty amazing actually.

**MVBrandt**

Byte wrote:
zedsdead wrote:
Byte wrote:
So whats the active measure to manage expectations for cheating as opposed to making it up during a lunch break like ATC?

Those solicitations come with an email address..why not send him one asking your inquires ?

I did do that. The Gent calmly explained to me the background and in and outs of the (turns out) global raffle. I now firmly understand the intent and these contributions for the raffle have no impact on prizes. Very smart NOCF. I apologize that I apparently came accross offensive. I feel my questions considering the information provided were appropriate. Now that someone in the know actually provided information and some helpful keystrokes. I realize I was way off base irt the charity raffle.

I'm glad someone took the time to explain. More of the same up to that point.

Again, please excuse my post and ignorance irt to the raffle. Its very clever and seems like a great effort supported by tons of charitable gamers. Pretty amazing actually.

TY byte. The NOVA Open is vastly more than a 40K GT, which is less than 10% of our attendance. If you want to ping customerservice@novaopen.com about heavy questions in re cheaters at NOVA please do. Just don't want this to become the ATC thread when its purpose is not that.

**Sneggy**

Where can we find the lists for the Invitational? Being invited to predict pairings (by the FLG article today) is all well and good but theres no lists to look at to make that judgement

**MVBrandt**

Sneggy wrote:
Where can we find the lists for the Invitational? Being invited to predict pairings (by the FLG article today) is all well and good but theres no lists to look at to make that judgement

Having players only commit in advance to faction is part of the fun

**Sneggy**

Ah right, no lists as of yet, Thats me not understanding the system then.

Will it be on BCP at this time?

**Audustum**

So maybe I'm just crazy, but I'm reading through the GT Primer and I can't figure out how the LoS blocking feature of the center Ruins work and how you distinguish that with the partial LoS blocking feature of the outer Ruins. Can someone explain this?

I understood full LoS blocking Ruins to work like this (stolen from Reddit):

So imagine that "[]" is a building. A "o" is a model.

o................[]o
^ Model A // ^ Model B

In the above example, Model A cannot shoot at Model B. Even if Model A can see Model B through windows or cracks in the building, Model A may not shoot at Model B and vice versa. Since 8th is pretty shooty, or I should say, Warhammer 40K itself is pretty shooty, making it so the bottom floor protects models no matter what helps to make it a more interesting game. This is also important with the changes to 8th in regards to shooting since it is easier to draw line of sight, and to hit models.

o................[o]
^ Model A // ^ Model B

In the above example, Model A may shoot at Model B provided he can draw line of sight because Model B is inside the building itself. Model B is also benefiting from a cover save, so it helps to kind of "cancel" it out.

..................[]o
o................[]o
^ Model A // ^ Model B

Note that in this example, Model B is tall enough to go up and over the first story. Model A can draw line of sight to model B from the second story, so Model A may shoot at Model B if it can see it through the second story. This is to make it so that large creatures don't get to hide as easily. Most infantry and tanks would be able to hide behind a first story building in most situations.
Using this rule will make your games more fun and make them a little bit more balanced.

Is this how the center Ruins work at NOVA? If so, what does 'partial' blocking do, then?

**MVBrandt**

That looks like the ITC rule and no we certainly don't use it. Blocking just is letting you know the pieces completely and actually block LOS as we built the terrain with tall, wide, solid walls.

The partially blocking pieces are ruins but are varyingly more porous (ie windows) and so are variably less likely to physically block LOS.

We play with rulebook true LOS and just a metric shitton of lovingly volunteer crafted terrain.

**Ordana**

Is there going to be a stream for Nova?

**MVBrandt**

2 streams actually

Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.

**Ordana**

MVBrandt wrote:
2 streams actually

Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.

Sweet, thanks. I'll keep an eye out for em.

**Budzerker**

MVBrandt wrote:
2 streams actually

Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.

I can only find the Warhammer TV stream. Which you cannot watch without paying money and subscribing... Hard No.

What is the other stream?

**blackmage**

Budzerker wrote:
MVBrandt wrote:
2 streams actually

Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.

I can only find the Warhammer TV stream. Which you cannot watch without paying money and subscribing... Hard No.

What is the other stream?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/303699332
there you find

**Sunny Side Up**

Budzerker wrote:
MVBrandt wrote:
2 streams actually

Will try to update links here but also follow the official Facebook.

I can only find the Warhammer TV stream. Which you cannot watch without paying money and subscribing... Hard No.

What is the other stream?

Warhammer stream is free watching live, just need to pay for back games. You also get one free sub per month with Amazon Prime, if you'd happen to have that and would be interested enough in these games to throw it that way.

**MVBrandt**

PSA. How to follow the Nova Invitational this weekend. (And the Open later too)

Games Workshop Stream w/ Geoff and Frankie: https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

Beast Coast Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/beast_coast_gaming

Brackets for Invitational to see results: https://challonge.com/NOVAinvite18

The Warhammer stream is awesome and it'll encourage GW to do more stuff like this. Geoff and Frankie are doing a fantastic job!

P.S. - For lists, watch the streams, they post them in chat for the matches happening at the time.

**djones520**

Did anyone watching game 2 catch Juice falling back with a Helverin, then firing and assaulting with it?

I just had the stream going on my phone, was hard to understand what was going on, but that's what looked like what happened.