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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 14:36:56
Subject: Chaos Daemon Detachment question
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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So to gain the loci i need all my guys to be khorne daemons/nurgle daemons, what have you. So would having a Defiler or Forgefiend with Khorne as their god keep the loci bonus, or does it entirely have to be Codex Daemons units?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 14:40:06
Subject: Chaos Daemon Detachment question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Entirely daemon faction detachment to gain the loci
(Other daemon units can benefit however)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 15:20:33
Subject: Chaos Daemon Detachment question
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Norn Queen
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vaklor4 wrote:So to gain the loci i need all my guys to be khorne daemons/nurgle daemons, what have you. So would having a Defiler or Forgefiend with Khorne as their god keep the loci bonus, or does it entirely have to be Codex Daemons units?
They need to all have the faction keyword DAEMON and <ALLEGIANCE>
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 15:59:29
Subject: Chaos Daemon Detachment question
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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BaconCatBug wrote: vaklor4 wrote:So to gain the loci i need all my guys to be khorne daemons/nurgle daemons, what have you. So would having a Defiler or Forgefiend with Khorne as their god keep the loci bonus, or does it entirely have to be Codex Daemons units?
They need to all have the faction keyword DAEMON and <ALLEGIANCE>
And even though Alliegence and Mark of Chaos spawn the same keywords, im guessing theyre different still? Not confusing at all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 16:22:52
Subject: Chaos Daemon Detachment question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hmm that's a pretty small technicality but I bet it will catch a lot of people out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 16:22:54
Subject: Chaos Daemon Detachment question
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vaklor4 wrote: BaconCatBug wrote: vaklor4 wrote:So to gain the loci i need all my guys to be khorne daemons/nurgle daemons, what have you. So would having a Defiler or Forgefiend with Khorne as their god keep the loci bonus, or does it entirely have to be Codex Daemons units?
They need to all have the faction keyword DAEMON and <ALLEGIANCE>
And even though Alliegence and Mark of Chaos spawn the same keywords, im guessing theyre different still? Not confusing at all 
To be honest, it's really pretty clear. On page 124 of the Daemon codex, it defines a Chaos Daemons Detachment, stating
any Detachment which only includes units with both the CHAOS and DAEMONS Faction keywords.
Thus, something like a Defiler, which has the DAEMON keyword but not the DAEMON Faction keyword, cannot be included if the intent is to have a Chaos Daemon detachment, and thus gain the Loci.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 17:40:48
Subject: Chaos Daemon Detachment question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Two comments on all of this.
1.) Faction keywords and other keywords have been separate on datasheet since start of 8th, this is just the first instance of it mattering- but probably won't be the last.
2.). Keyword khorne and keyword khorne may not be equal. Same for all the Chaos gods names. Likely khorne keyword from heretic astartes, nurgle from codex deathguard and heretic astartes etc., Comes from <mark of chaos> and khorne or nurgle etc from codex daemons comes from <allegiance>. The end result is one word in the current system but that one word refers back to different things.
Much like naming a AM <regiment> Ultramarines is allowed it doesn't make it the same as <chapter> ultramarines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/16 17:54:40
Subject: Chaos Daemon Detachment question
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Cryonicleech wrote: vaklor4 wrote: BaconCatBug wrote: vaklor4 wrote:So to gain the loci i need all my guys to be khorne daemons/nurgle daemons, what have you. So would having a Defiler or Forgefiend with Khorne as their god keep the loci bonus, or does it entirely have to be Codex Daemons units?
They need to all have the faction keyword DAEMON and <ALLEGIANCE>
And even though Alliegence and Mark of Chaos spawn the same keywords, im guessing theyre different still? Not confusing at all 
To be honest, it's really pretty clear. On page 124 of the Daemon codex, it defines a Chaos Daemons Detachment, stating
any Detachment which only includes units with both the CHAOS and DAEMONS Faction keywords.
Thus, something like a Defiler, which has the DAEMON keyword but not the DAEMON Faction keyword, cannot be included if the intent is to have a Chaos Daemon detachment, and thus gain the Loci.
But Nurgle Obliterators from CSM can be added. As they have the DAEMON keyword in the faction keywords. Cool.
Or any marked Obliterators.
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