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Final warhammer community sneak peek

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-units-codex-thousand-sonsgw-homepage-post-2/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/22/faction-focus-the-thousand-sonsgw-homepage-post-2/



Starting this thread because the preview of the thousand sons codex is at 6 GMT(1pmEST) Thursday on warhammer live.

So far warhammer community has confirmed that no new models will be released just a porting over of the tzaangors range to 40k as well as a tzeentch monster beast.

Aspiring sorceror a can take psychic powers other than smite


3 disciplines with 18 total powers. Most likely heretic astartes, a thousand sons specific one and tzeentch demons

Reroll 1s on the invulnerable saves is out. I didn’t catch what new aura we got.
Legion Trait sounded like +6″ spell range (first cast per model).
Dark Matter Crystal (a relic) allows you to remove a unit close to the bearer from the board and redeploy the unit via deep strike.
Dark Hereticus is still in and there are plenty of more spells.
Aspiring Sorcerers can take other spells (unsure if you can take it on top of Smite or if you drop Smite).
Glamour of Tzeentch spell gives one of your unit -1 to hit protection.
Doombolt spell does some damage and reduces target units move.
Temporal Manipulation is another spell but I have no idea of what it does.
Tzaangor Shaman is an elite choice and not HQ. The Shaman can reroll a Psychic test (probably the Elixir from AoS).
Tzaangor Enlightened can take bows and shoot magical arrows that auto-wound on to hit rolls of 6+. Assault 1d3 shots.
Lord of Forbidden Lore Warlord Trait give an additional spell.
There is a stratagem that allows a unit to set up in the webway or something like that. Deep strike. Works on Tzaangors at least.
Veterans of the Long War is still in!
Mutalith Vortex Beast buffs nearby units. Like reroll charge rolls if you’re in the 6″ aura.

Is it already known that you can use Tzaangor Skyfires also? Until now they just mentioned Tzaangor Enlightened.

 Astmeister wrote:
Is it already known that you can use Tzaangor Skyfires also? Until now they just mentioned Tzaangor Enlightened.

Yes

 Astmeister wrote:
Is it already known that you can use Tzaangor Skyfires also? Until now they just mentioned Tzaangor Enlightened.

It was confirmed on Facebook.

Cool cool cool cool cool. Also the Gaunt Summoner?

 Astmeister wrote:
Cool cool cool cool cool. Also the Gaunt Summoner?

It's weird. They kept linking to the Summoner in some of the Chaos Daemons articles and yet he's not in the codex at all that I can find.

The Gaunt Summoner, while being a Daemon itself, is a Tzeentch Arcanite / Everchosen unit (so Mortals faction), and he is tied to AOS (in the lore) as the Nurgle Daemons engines are tied to 40k.

BTW the Skyfire were confirmed on Facebook ? Great ! I only saw the Enlightened being mentioned !

 HorticulusDK wrote:
The Gaunt Summoner, while being a Daemon itself, is a Tzeentch Arcanite / Everchosen unit (so Mortals faction), and he is tied to AOS (in the lore) as the Nurgle Daemons engines are tied to 40k.

BTW the Skyfire were confirmed on Facebook ? Great ! I only saw the Enlightened being mentioned !

I was just saying it was wird because it was linked to in a 40K specific article.

 HorticulusDK wrote:
The Gaunt Summoner, while being a Daemon itself, is a Tzeentch Arcanite / Everchosen unit (so Mortals faction), and he is tied to AOS (in the lore) as the Nurgle Daemons engines are tied to 40k.

BTW the Skyfire were confirmed on Facebook ? Great ! I only saw the Enlightened being mentioned !

From the army list on WHC, it looks like they just called the unit Enlightened and gave them two equipment loadouts, since they're listed as Enlightened but have bows.

I notice the Shaman is an Elite choice, so the worry that he was an HQ and you could take an army of just Tzaangors has been disproved.

A shame. TS needed a cheap HQs more than the fear of some people of Codex:Tzaangors and friends.

 Galas wrote:
A shame. TS needed a cheap HQs more than the fear of some people of Codex:Tzaangors and friends.

I feel the same. I would have liked it to be an HQ.

 Imateria wrote:
I notice the Shaman is an Elite choice, so the worry that he was an HQ and you could take an army of just Tzaangors has been disproved.

Not sure why there was any worry, it being a HQ didn't mean you'd have to take only it and other Tzaangor.

Was there any mention of a repack to include 40k bits for the new Tzaangor kits? Rifles instead of bows for example to go with the pistols and chainswords instead of sword and shield?

The army lists are up - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/16/week-warhammer-live-9/

Thousand Sons Army List:

Interesting army list. Mostly not marines, which I am slowly warming up to. Also of note is psychic powers on the lesser sorcerers. That is cool.

Well that answers the question about the bows. Disappointed to only see 1 unit of scarabs and 1 unit of rubrics.

Hold on a second... anyone notice this?

HQ <--

Magnus the Red
– Warlord – Lord of Forbidden Lore
– Warptime, Death Hex, Weaver of Fates <--
– Infernal Gateway

Note bold things. Discuss.

And aspiring sorcerers for Rubrics and Scarab have spells now.

 anticitizen013 wrote:
Hold on a second... anyone notice this?

HQ <--

Magnus the Red
– Warlord – Lord of Forbidden Lore
– Warptime, Death Hex, Weaver of Fates <--
– Infernal Gateway

Note bold things. Discuss.

I noticed this too, I'm super happy to see that we're keeping the Dark Hereticus psychic powers and seemingly gaining some more to boot! Also, the Daemon Prince has "Gaze of Fate" which is one of the best spells from the new Tzeentch Daemons psychic discipline!

The thing that is boggling my mind is that he is under HQ.

I wonder if that's just a typo or just a way for organizing on the site/ease of reading... I'm pretty sure he will remain LOW but that would be super weird

 anticitizen013 wrote:
The thing that is boggling my mind is that he is under HQ.

I wonder if that's just a typo or just a way for organizing on the site/ease of reading... I'm pretty sure he will remain LOW but that would be super weird

Typo, they just confirmed he's still a LoW on the twitch video.

 andrewm9 wrote:
Interesting army list. Mostly not marines, which I am slowly warming up to. Also of note is psychic powers on the lesser sorcerers. That is cool.

It's really just them putting as many things in to showcase. The changes so far seem like it will be even easier to build marine lists.

And did I miss that they have a deepstrike strat now, too?

Every Thousand Sons Psyker gets an additional 6" to their range.

Magnus lost rerolls to 1s. Yikes.

Daedalus81 wrote:
Magnus lost rerolls to 1s. Yikes.

Yes, but what does he get in return?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
Magnus lost rerolls to 1s. Yikes.

Yes, but what does he get in return?

No idea!

They said he's slightly more shooty in the psychic phase. That's it.

 andrewm9 wrote:
Interesting army list. Mostly not marines, which I am slowly warming up to. Also of note is psychic powers on the lesser sorcerers. That is cool.

Well with beta smite rule that makes sense since you are paying for access to smite that keeps getting weaker and weaker the more units you take.

tneva82 wrote:

 andrewm9 wrote:
Interesting army list. Mostly not marines, which I am slowly warming up to. Also of note is psychic powers on the lesser sorcerers. That is cool.

Well with beta smite rule that makes sense since you are paying for access to smite that keeps getting weaker and weaker the more units you take.

If Aspiring Sorcs are still mini-smites, there will be little reason to ever cast it with them if they can take the new tson power list. Id rather use them for buffs or other offensive powers that would be crappy if you took them on one of your key psykers like ahriman.