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Oh wow! Thank you for this man!

Firestorm and Boon

Oh, thousand sons get boon... thaaats interesting... I'm going to make the assumption that like the Death Guard's version of the Miasma spell it targets Thousand Sons. Assuming that, Boon is an amazing spell to add to the buffs we can stack on a unit of Tzaangors or SOT. Though now I'm going to want a DP in the list much more to ensure that I don't get stuck with +1T when i'm trying to have my 40 tzaangors rip up a bunch of infantry.

I was hoping for buff spell to boost str on SOTs!! Been saying it for months! Not here though...

Tzeentch's Firestorm was in Chapter Approved, no?
I think it's Doombolt and Boon we haven't seen yet.

Sorry did not get chapter approved thanks for clarifying.

Oh I didn't mean to be rude! Sorry!
Tzeentch's Firestorm as of Chapter Approved was Warp Charge 7, pick an enemy unit within 18″ of the psyker that is visible. Roll 9 dice, the enemy unit takes a Mortal Wound for each roll of a 6.

Yeah, sucks that firestorm is in there since it's such a garbage spell (of course the one time I tried using it on ahriman I scored 4 mortals with it, but like...averages, Scotsman, keep your eye on the averages...) but eh. A couple good spells in Change discipline to throw on offensive casters with cast bonuses, a couple low ml spells to throw on rubrics to buff stuff... some definitely good reasons to pick up the daemon psykers to get the tzeentch discipline, I like the lists so far.

I can't remember if it was WC7 or WC9 but at WC7 it's not *too* bad as it averages out to 1.5 mortal wounds on a unit that you get to pick, 24" range with the Thousand Sons legion trait. I'm happy for an Aspiring Sorcerer to have it. Could be better though for sure.

 Breotan wrote:
Personally, I'd prefer seeing Thousand Sons get Sehkmet and Khenentai and heavy support Rubrics than more varieties of demons.

Scarab Occult ARE Sekhmet
But the rest would be greaaat

Caederes wrote:
Oh I didn't mean to be rude! Sorry!
Tzeentch's Firestorm as of Chapter Approved was Warp Charge 7, pick an enemy unit within 18″ of the psyker that is visible. Roll 9 dice, the enemy unit takes a Mortal Wound for each roll of a 6.

I didn't take it that way at all though thanks and also for the spell summary. Also sorry if my response was curt.

The firestorm has always been the old big hit or miss.

Now im thinking i got over exited that boon is in the 1k sons disipline and sots and tzangoors would benefit though i think ig is the demon discipline that only effects demons.

The Tzeentch discipline spell is called Boon of Change, so Boon of Mutation must be something different.

Thank you for that. I obviously model and paint a lot mpre than play lol.

That being said, i would be fine with them being similiar.

Could we get more details on relics or the mutalith pls.

clockworkchris9 wrote:
Could we get more details on relics or the mutalith pls.

I second this, especially the mutalith part!

Thanks again for everything xxhikaru123!!

Any details on Exalted Sorcerers would be incredibly appreciated, anything is appreciated actually. Thank you.

Oh, that is slightly different.

Interestingly if it was similar to Miasma, ie same effect just targeting Tsons instead of Daemons, it would not be subject to the same restriction GW just FAQed into the DG one. They'd be different spells, technically.

I definitely wouldn't mind that at all, though there's far fewer good targets for it on the daemon side having both wouldn't be bad. most of my lists so far have had something like 9-10 casters with 15 powers in a 2k list, so I'm going to need every separate cast I can get lol.

 Skerr wrote:

Caederes wrote:
Oh I didn't mean to be rude! Sorry!
Tzeentch's Firestorm as of Chapter Approved was Warp Charge 7, pick an enemy unit within 18″ of the psyker that is visible. Roll 9 dice, the enemy unit takes a Mortal Wound for each roll of a 6.

I didn't take it that way at all though thanks and also for the spell summary. Also sorry if my response was curt.

The firestorm has always been the old big hit or miss.

Now im thinking i got over exited that boon is in the 1k sons disipline and sots and tzangoors would benefit though i think ig is the demon discipline that only effects demons.

Ok that's good lol, it can be hard to tell on the internet so thought I'd make sure

I'm curious to see what that new Boon power is, if it's anything like the Daemon one then yeah our combat units will definitely get some mega value out of it.

Boon of Mutation WC7. Select friendly TS Character (not a daemon character) within 3". Roll 2D6 and consult the chart on the Boon of Tzeentch to see what effect this power has. Similiar to the old chaos boon table.

The Mutalith , i didn't pay too much attention, 150 pts.
Similar statline to Haruspex but WS3+ with the attack that lets you do more attack per attack.

Two options for the chart (buffs) [range 9-18"]
Choose a power and it triggers OR Roll a D6 and you get to roll a second time for a second effect.

If you go below half wounds, your chart abilities' range doubles.



Overall , I didn't pay too much attention to the codex unless it was top tier and can be used in conjunction with my current Chaos.

For 150 points, a similar profile to the Haruspex that instead hits on 3s with the addition of an invulnerable sounds really darned good. I like the way that buff aura works too, guaranteeing you can get what you want or doubling up on abilities at the price of randomness. Not bad and the ranges of the abilities are pretty big even before doubling.

If Boon of Tzeentch uses the Chaos Boon chart from Chaos Space Marines, that's alright in conjunction with Gaze of Fate I guess. Nothing special.

Cheers!

Caederes wrote:
For 150 points, a similar profile to the Haruspex that instead hits on 3s with the addition of an invulnerable sounds really darned good. I like the way that buff aura works too, guaranteeing you can get what you want or doubling up on abilities at the price of randomness. Not bad and the ranges of the abilities are pretty big even before doubling.

If Boon of Tzeentch uses the Chaos Boon chart from Chaos Space Marines, that's alright in conjunction with Gaze of Fate I guess. Nothing special.

Cheers!

Yeah , my first thought was that it's straight up a way better haruspex that worked like an old chaos warshrine, and 40-50 points cheaper than a Haruspex. Pretty good value.

The abilities are all over the place from minor statbuff to shooty mw. lol

Felt Tyranid players would be envious.

I may take one in fun games then due to randomness. Although depending on how it's used, it might end up being a fire magnet (especially when it's first released).

Any new strats that we haven't hear of yet?

Relics which are good (besides dark crystal)?

Are characters on discs still daemons?

 Ysclyth wrote:
Are characters on discs still daemons?

+1 this question

 Thousand-Son-Sorcerer wrote:

 Ysclyth wrote:
Are characters on discs still daemons?

+1 this question

yes.

Any stratagems or relics of note? Relic stave or relic disc

Can the Aspiring Sorcerers or Scarab Occult Sorcerers select a Dark Hereticus power instead of Change?

Any changes to Tzaangors?

Unit size, new ability, points cost?

Will there be two-handed swords/axes for Tzaangors or their options remain the same?

 Skerr wrote:
You know aspiring and sots might get big smite instead of mini smite. They seem to be getting more relevence and with smite nerf it is possible. I think i read here we dont pay for him seperate only his gear so maybe not.

The extra spell, added range and cheaper cost makes me inclined to say they will not as it is huge. The smite nerf however makes it a wild card.

Of course smite nerf itself had nothing to do with rules in codex that were already in print by the time smite nerf was announced. Which btw isn't yet even official rule and is on beta test phase.