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I was kind of disappointed when the new IG codex was released that we didnt get alot of extra goodies to play with. No dice, no tokens, no dials for CPs/VPs, no objective tokens or anything.
I mean, couldnt they at least have given us a set of tokens for the various orders?

Some releases gets a lot of extra stuff, some get nothing. What gives?

We got Sly Marbo and Ogryn Bodyguards.

Sly Marbo is going to be fantastic until they nerf remote detonation

 ChargerIIC wrote:
We got Sly Marbo and Ogryn Bodyguards.

Sly Marbo is going to be fantastic until they nerf remote detonation

Well I wasnt thinking about models but accessories

Other factions didn't get that either (other than dice).

The dials and tokens were in the collectors edition rulebook and the objective markers were released at rulebook launch.

for the most part the focus has been on putting the books OUT.

 ChargerIIC wrote:
Sly Marbo is going to be fantastic until they nerf remote detonation

Uh.. what? How is remote detonation worthy of nerfing? If anything its weak and needs buffing. When you use it you get an average of 1 mortal wound.... whoopdedoo. In previous editions marbo would deliver pinpoint precise demo charges that could realistically wipe out squads or put a big dent in a vehicle.

Unless I'm missing something marbo is in general pretty weak. What am I missing?

ThePorcupine wrote:

 ChargerIIC wrote:
Sly Marbo is going to be fantastic until they nerf remote detonation

Uh.. what? How is remote detonation worthy of nerfing? If anything its weak and needs buffing. When you use it you get an average of 1 mortal wound.... whoopdedoo. In previous editions marbo would deliver pinpoint precise demo charges that could realistically wipe out squads or put a big dent in a vehicle.

Unless I'm missing something marbo is in general pretty weak. What am I missing?

It can target anything on the board. You can drop marbo one one corner and have marbo detonate hidden explosives on a necron croissant flying 6 feet away on the other side of the table. Not super powerful, but somewhat useful tool. Honestly I consider stalk with knife the scariest for an opponent, more to tie a unit up than it's actual damage output.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

ThePorcupine wrote:

 ChargerIIC wrote:
Sly Marbo is going to be fantastic until they nerf remote detonation

Uh.. what? How is remote detonation worthy of nerfing? If anything its weak and needs buffing. When you use it you get an average of 1 mortal wound.... whoopdedoo. In previous editions marbo would deliver pinpoint precise demo charges that could realistically wipe out squads or put a big dent in a vehicle.

Unless I'm missing something marbo is in general pretty weak. What am I missing?

It can target anything on the board. You can drop marbo one one corner and have marbo detonate hidden explosives on a necron croissant flying 6 feet away on the other side of the table. Not super powerful, but somewhat useful tool. Honestly I consider stalk with knife the scariest for an opponent, more to tie a unit up than it's actual damage output.

This. It's not mega broken but you know there is going to be a massive dakka thread demanding it be nerfed into oblivion. Especially after I target those thrice damned centurion marines from across the map. I might cackle.

Oh Hell, I will cackle

Soulless wrote:
I was kind of disappointed when the new IG codex was released that we didnt get alot of extra goodies to play with. No dice, no tokens, no dials for CPs/VPs, no objective tokens or anything.
I mean, couldnt they at least have given us a set of tokens for the various orders?

Some releases gets a lot of extra stuff, some get nothing. What gives?

It's based, seemingly, upon whether it's an actual NEW! book or just a rehash.

Custodes, Marines, and Death Guard are the only ones who have gotten super fancy editions.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

ThePorcupine wrote:

 ChargerIIC wrote:
Sly Marbo is going to be fantastic until they nerf remote detonation

Uh.. what? How is remote detonation worthy of nerfing? If anything its weak and needs buffing. When you use it you get an average of 1 mortal wound.... whoopdedoo. In previous editions marbo would deliver pinpoint precise demo charges that could realistically wipe out squads or put a big dent in a vehicle.

Unless I'm missing something marbo is in general pretty weak. What am I missing?

It can target anything on the board. You can drop marbo one one corner and have marbo detonate hidden explosives on a necron croissant flying 6 feet away on the other side of the table. Not super powerful, but somewhat useful tool. Honestly I consider stalk with knife the scariest for an opponent, more to tie a unit up than it's actual damage output.

And then.. assuming your opponent hasn't placed models near him, he can be put back into "reserve" to repeat this a second time a couple turns later.

Yes. And then you have a massive TWO mortal wounds on average to something on the board. You might manage to kill two whole marine models.

I'm clearly biased against it, but it's hard to argue that it's broken, or even GOOD, when smite does the same thing every turn and for cheaper.

Contact Chessex's Joseph Kogin via their website and design some of your own dice - very reasonable. I have dice cut to match my armies (and get them for my buddy's armies as gifts). Heck I also design my own tokens and will be working on army specific ones shortly.

The above use and also the smite nerf makes marbo another source of mortal wounds (although not a good source of mortal wounds for characters), but he is decent at taking out lower tier characters such as primarus, company commanders, etc with stalk with knife. Marbo would have been awesome if he was allowed to do this 3x for 65pts.


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ThePorcupine wrote:
Yes. And then you have a massive TWO mortal wounds on average to something on the board. You might manage to kill two whole marine models.

I'm clearly biased against it, but it's hard to argue that it's broken, or even GOOD, when smite does the same thing every turn and for cheaper.

Smite is nerfed or will be when the experimental rules go through. So you have at best 2x smite, maybe the mediocre mortal wound power and marbo ability to spam mortal wounds. Considering he’s now the same cost as a primarus and he’s more durable and has a longer range. He’s more than good.

ThePorcupine wrote:
Yes. And then you have a massive TWO mortal wounds on average to something on the board. You might manage to kill two whole marine models.

I'm clearly biased against it, but it's hard to argue that it's broken, or even GOOD, when smite does the same thing every turn and for cheaper.

...no, the second time you send him in you use stalk and charge something. Turn 1, he shows up, detonates, then turn 2 he disappears and Stalks or Shoots to try and remove a pesky character.

He's not a bad little piece but if I were designing him I'd maybe buff the actual power of explosives and remove the weird interaction that makes it an auto-take.

gungo wrote:
Considering he’s now the same cost as a primarus and he’s more durable and has a longer range. He’s more than good.

What?... Primaris psyker is 46 points. Marbo is 65. And if you're talking about a primaris marine captain, he's nowhere near as durable. Marbo is made of tissue paper. To do more than plink away with 1 mortal wound twice per game, he has to get in someone's face. And the second he does, he dies. Primaris psykers have a lot of utility outside of smite. Giving your guys -1 to hit. Improving armor saves. Passing morale. All sorts of stuff.