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I am new tp playing and I am not sure if this works but if you run a death Guard army, do you have to only use there codex stratagems, or can you also use the generic Chaos space marines?
The reason I am asking is I am thinking about making a Nurgle army with 40 cultist meat shielding Poxwalkers. The Nurgle Staragem "The dead Walk again" will gain a poxwalker for every dead cultist, so as they get taking out you get pox walkers, now the generic Chaos Space marine Stratagem "Tide of Traitors" at the end of movement phase you select a unit of cultist remove them from the board and out flank 6" from table edge and more then 9" from enemy at full strength. So you can let them take a beating infront of poxwalkers and before they are all gone poof, they come back to full strength. Please let me know if this will work? Thank you
   
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I think you have to have an actual csm detachment to access those stratagems.
   
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murfdawg71 wrote:
I am new tp playing and I am not sure if this works but if you run a death Guard army, do you have to only use there codex stratagems, or can you also use the generic Chaos space marines?
The reason I am asking is I am thinking about making a Nurgle army with 40 cultist meat shielding Poxwalkers. The Nurgle Staragem "The dead Walk again" will gain a poxwalker for every dead cultist, so as they get taking out you get pox walkers, now the generic Chaos Space marine Stratagem "Tide of Traitors" at the end of movement phase you select a unit of cultist remove them from the board and out flank 6" from table edge and more then 9" from enemy at full strength. So you can let them take a beating infront of poxwalkers and before they are all gone poof, they come back to full strength. Please let me know if this will work? Thank you
Yes, they can.

From the Death Guard FAQ:
Q: Is it possible to use a Stratagem from Codex: Chaos Space Marines to target a unit from Codex: Death Guard? For example, can I use the Tide of Traitors stratagem on a unit of Cultists from a Death Guard Detachment if I have an Alpha Legion Detachment and a Death Guard Detachment in a single Battle-forged army?
A: Yes – if you have access to a Stratagem because you have an appropriate Detachment, it can be used on any permitted target: they do not need to be from that Detachment. In your example, the Alpha Legion Detachment gives access to the Chaos Space Marine Stratagems, and Tide of Traitors can be used on any Chaos Cultists – this would include any Chaos Cultists from the Death Guard Detachment.

However, the Chaos Daemons FAQ says
Q: When a Stratagem from Codex: Chaos Daemons uses the Daemon keyword, can it be used to affect any unit with the Daemon keyword, or only units with the Daemon Faction keyword?
A: These Stratagems can only affect units with the Daemon Faction keyword.

So CSM and DG ones work, Daemon Ones don't.

GW contradict themselves, not big surprise.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/01/22 21:38:20


 
   
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As long as you have a CSM detachment of some kind, then yes you can.

2500 pts Raven Guard, painted 
   
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Awesome, that helps I have to change my plan a little but now I know where to go. Thank you for the quick response.
   
 
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