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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 12:19:01
Subject: Multi charge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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Can a character declare a charge against two units in different directions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 12:19:21
Subject: Multi charge
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Norn Queen
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U02dah4 wrote:Can a character declare a charge against two units in different directions.
Yes. "Once you have chosen an eligible unit, select one or more enemy units within 12" of them as the target(s) of the charge." After those units fire overwatch, you roll for distance, then must try to get within 1" of any of your charge targets.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2018/01/26 12:20:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 12:26:10
Subject: Re:Multi charge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yes you can.
But what are you trying to achieve exactly? You seem to imply you want to charge two units that are far away from each other. There is no benefit of charging two different units if there's no way you can attack both in the ensuing fight phase (I'm assuming you don't have a way to attack twice, with a consolidate + pile move sufficient to cover the ground between the units).
Remember a unit can overwatch every time a unit declares a charge against it, as long as there are no enemy unit within 1". So you can't absorb overwatch without making the charge anymore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 12:28:27
Subject: Multi charge
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
Aachen
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BaconCatBug wrote:U02dah4 wrote:Can a character declare a charge against two units in different directions.
Yes. "Once you have chosen an eligible unit, select one or more enemy units within 12" of them as the target(s) of the charge."
After those units fire overwatch, you roll for distance, then must try to get within 1" of any of your charge targets.
Nitpicking, because BCB got it right, but just to avoid confusion due to edition lag: You have to move one model within 1'' of any one of your charge targets. Any other models must be moved so that after ever model moved, your unit is still coherent, and you cannot move any model within 1'' of an enemy unit you didn't charge. But you don't have to actually engage all units you charged - the only requirement is that you engage ONE of them, and which one is up to you (well, and your charge roll).
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fresus wrote:Yes you can.
But what are you trying to achieve exactly? You seem to imply you want to charge two units that are far away from each other. There is no benefit of charging two different units if there's no way you can attack both in the ensuing fight phase (I'm assuming you don't have a way to attack twice, with a consolidate + pile move sufficient to cover the ground between the units).
Remember a unit can overwatch every time a unit declares a charge against it, as long as there are no enemy unit within 1". So you can't absorb overwatch without making the charge anymore.
Maybe unit A is 2 inches away, and unit B is 10 inches away, but your prefered target. If your character rolls high enough to reach B, you engage B, but if it isn't your charge at least didn't fail because you can still engage unit A as a "backup strategy". As to overwatch: there're situations where the defending unit cannot overwatch. e.g. already being in close combat or not having ranged weapons at all.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/01/26 12:31:28
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 12:47:53
Subject: Multi charge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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nekooni wrote:Maybe unit A is 2 inches away, and unit B is 10 inches away, but your prefered target. If your character rolls high enough to reach B, you engage B, but if it isn't your charge at least didn't fail because you can still engage unit A as a "backup strategy". As to overwatch: there're situations where the defending unit cannot overwatch. e.g. already being in close combat or not having ranged weapons at all.
Didn't think of that. That's actually a pretty good strategy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 13:58:19
Subject: Multi charge
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Except both units get to use overwatch against your character. So, while you have your choice of targets you are eating addtional shots that you wouldn't have to chance if you just selected one charge target.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 14:40:03
Subject: Multi charge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Glasgow
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That was the exact scenario the unit I wanted to charge need a 12 on 3d6
but there was a half killed unit of marines at 9 at about a 90 degree angle
However the unit that was doing this was a BA DC CPT with angels wing relic so the enemy can't overwatch negateing the downside.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/26 23:33:50
Subject: Multi charge
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
Aachen
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Leo_the_Rat wrote:Except both units get to use overwatch against your character. So, while you have your choice of targets you are eating addtional shots that you wouldn't have to chance if you just selected one charge target.
"As to overwatch: there're situations where the defending unit cannot overwatch. e.g. already being in close combat or not having ranged weapons at all."
And if I simply don't give a feth about e.g. 10 bolter rounds targeting my terminator captain because that's never going to hurt him - so what?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/27 01:14:35
Subject: Multi charge
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Scuttling Genestealer
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fresus wrote:nekooni wrote:Maybe unit A is 2 inches away, and unit B is 10 inches away, but your prefered target. If your character rolls high enough to reach B, you engage B, but if it isn't your charge at least didn't fail because you can still engage unit A as a "backup strategy". As to overwatch: there're situations where the defending unit cannot overwatch. e.g. already being in close combat or not having ranged weapons at all.
Didn't think of that. That's actually a pretty good strategy.
In that situation, if the one declaring the charge is a unit with 2+ models instead of a character... say I roll high and get to my prefered target. Do I have an obligation to also get into CC with the other targets I declared, or can I keep them out of CC?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/27 07:06:59
Subject: Multi charge
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
Aachen
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HMint wrote:fresus wrote:nekooni wrote:Maybe unit A is 2 inches away, and unit B is 10 inches away, but your prefered target. If your character rolls high enough to reach B, you engage B, but if it isn't your charge at least didn't fail because you can still engage unit A as a "backup strategy". As to overwatch: there're situations where the defending unit cannot overwatch. e.g. already being in close combat or not having ranged weapons at all.
Didn't think of that. That's actually a pretty good strategy.
In that situation, if the one declaring the charge is a unit with 2+ models instead of a character... say I roll high and get to my prefered target. Do I have an obligation to also get into CC with the other targets I declared, or can I keep them out of CC?
As above: you must engage one unit. That's it.
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