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Made in gb
Been Around the Block



Cambridge UK

Can a gun with multiple shots (say, D3) shoot all those shots at one model?
   
Made in gb
Numberless Necron Warrior




Scotland, UK

While you can split shooting for different weapons across multiple units, each individual weapon must be fired wholly at a single unit:

"If a weapon has more than one attack, it
must make all of its attacks against the
same target unit. "

(From Weapon Types rules, pg6 of the battle primer; don't have the BRB with me!)

Note that units can be made of multiple models and hits may well spread across models in a unit depending on the number of wounds they have and the damage the weapon does.

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Norn Queen






Sy2pie wrote:
Can a gun with multiple shots (say, D3) shoot all those shots at one model?
You don't fire at models, you fire at units. A gun that has D3 shots in it's profile must shoot them all at the same unit.
   
Made in gb
Been Around the Block



Cambridge UK

Does that mean damage can be spread out between numerous models in a unit? My understand is no, but the number of shots can.
   
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Numberless Necron Warrior




Scotland, UK

When you fire at a unit your opponent allocates wounds to models in the unit. This can usually be done altogether as most models have 1 wound, and most weapons do 1 damage.

If you have units with models that have multiple wounds wounds are allocated by your opponent as normal BUT wounds must be allocated first to any models that have already lost wounds. Typically weapons that do random damage are rolled for one at a time against multi-wound models.

The upshot of this is: In 99.9% of cases you will end up with only a single wounded model in a unit at a time, as wounds are piled onto them first before moving onto the next model.

What you absolutely cannot do is take 1 wound each on a whole unit of Primaris before removing any as a casualty.

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Norn Queen






Sy2pie wrote:
Does that mean damage can be spread out between numerous models in a unit? My understand is no, but the number of shots can.
Damage can't, but wounds can.

A 5 shot, 1 damage weapon shot at single wound models can kill up to 5 models. If shot at a unit of five wound models, it can kill at most a single model since you have to allocate to wounded models first.
A 1 shot, 5 damage weapon can kill at most a single model regardless of how many wounds each model in the unit has.

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Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

 BaconCatBug wrote:

A 1 shot, 5 damage weapon can kill at most a single model regardless of how many wounds each model in the unit has.


Unless that weapon also does mortal wounds, those are passed to another model. One example is the sniper rifle, it doesnt do 5 damage (only 1), but the 1 shot from it can wound one model and inflict a mortal wound on another model in the same unit (if every model in the unit has only 1 wound). Which usually kills it, unless it has an ability to ignore wounds.
   
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon






 p5freak wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:

A 1 shot, 5 damage weapon can kill at most a single model regardless of how many wounds each model in the unit has.


Unless that weapon also does mortal wounds, those are passed to another model. One example is the sniper rifle, it doesnt do 5 damage (only 1), but the 1 shot from it can wound one model and inflict a mortal wound on another model in the same unit (if every model in the unit has only 1 wound). Which usually kills it, unless it has an ability to ignore wounds.
I think you're confusing how mortal wounds work with how mortal wounds sourced from Smite and equivalents work.

There is no mechanics that spills over mortal wounds from model to model. Smite and similar abilities happen to inflict the mortal wounds to the UNIT, therefore it trickles down from model to model.
   
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Norn Queen






 skchsan wrote:
There is no mechanics that spills over mortal wounds from model to model.
There is, it's the mortal wound mechanic itself.
Page 181 BRB wrote:Unlike normal attacks, excess damage from attacks that inflict mortal wounds is not lost. Instead keep allocating damage to another model in the target unit until either all the damage has been allocated or the target unit is destroyed.
   
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 BaconCatBug wrote:
 skchsan wrote:
There is no mechanics that spills over mortal wounds from model to model.
There is, it's the mortal wound mechanic itself.
Page 181 BRB wrote:Unlike normal attacks, excess damage from attacks that inflict mortal wounds is not lost. Instead keep allocating damage to another model in the target unit until either all the damage has been allocated or the target unit is destroyed.
Well shoot. I stand corrected.
   
 
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