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 Unit1126PLL wrote:
The Imperium keyword is banned within a detachment. I am not certain the stream indicated that it was banned in the whole army.


People were saying banned per detachment, but, seemingly ok army wide. (so 1 Guard, 1 Marine, 1 soup detachment).

Also thought i caught something like you're now required at least 1 battalion or brigade per army.
   
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gendoikari87 wrote:
 Unit1126PLL wrote:
The Imperium keyword is banned within a detachment. I am not certain the stream indicated that it was banned in the whole army.
what's the point of that? guard detatchments are a dime a dozen.

No more Saint Celestine in an otherwise Guard detachment for example.
   
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As I understood it, no more soup detachments.




 
   
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gendoikari87 wrote:
 Unit1126PLL wrote:
The Imperium keyword is banned within a detachment. I am not certain the stream indicated that it was banned in the whole army.
what's the point of that? guard detatchments are a dime a dozen.


It was more for the Ynnari problem.
   
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Eh, people in the News and Rumours thread said the CP for Battalions and Brigades have been changed to 5CP and 12CP lol... I'm presuming they've got rid of the 3CP for battle forged... If not... One of my lists now has 20CP?!?!
   
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 Daedalus81 wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
 Unit1126PLL wrote:
The Imperium keyword is banned within a detachment. I am not certain the stream indicated that it was banned in the whole army.
what's the point of that? guard detatchments are a dime a dozen.


It was more for the Ynnari problem.
It does not effect Ynnari since the Ynnari keyword is already limited to pure Ynnari detachments.

   
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They wanted to increase the number of CP avaible to armies that can't spam multiple detachments.




 
   
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 Earth127 wrote:
They wanted to increase the number of CP avaible to armies that can't spam multiple detachments.


I totally understand that and agree it was needed... But... A brigade, Vanguard and Supreme command now gives me 17CP. That Custodes detachment is going to get 8? 9CP total, with their best stratagems costing 2 or 3CP? At least Grey Knights will be able to buff their shooting more than once a game though
   
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That's the idea. They said on stream (tough the audio was of so I may have misunderstood) that armies that can already cheaply fill out stuff just end up not spending all their CP so it doesn't buff them (IG) as much as you might think.

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I think that's still a buff though. Basically, they have so many points they don't have to prioritize how they're spending them.
   
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 Earth127 wrote:
They wanted to increase the number of CP avaible to armies that can't spam multiple detachments.

Like Tzeentch demons have no problem using 2 battalions, so Horror Spam is back?

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 Earth127 wrote:
That's the idea. They said on stream (tough the audio was of so I may have misunderstood) that armies that can already cheaply fill out stuff just end up not spending all their CP so it doesn't buff them (IG) as much as you might think.


My 17CP list is T'au. I'd happily spend those 17CP in the first 1-3 turns, plus any additional ones gained from the CP farm relic... Sure, Guard might start to run out of ideas if they are double farming CP, but, still easy to burn through them - especially now you don't have to limit yourself as much!

My Raven Guard also, will now happily spend CP on 5 units to SftS with them, leaving me with another 5CP to spend on other things.


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FAQ LINK!!!

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 Earth127 wrote:
That's the idea. They said on stream (tough the audio was of so I may have misunderstood) that armies that can already cheaply fill out stuff just end up not spending all their CP so it doesn't buff them (IG) as much as you might think.

It's a lot more free rerolls for them.

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If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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I expected nothing and was still underwhelmed.

Grey Knights got NOTHING and that's hilarious.


 
   
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FAQ LINK!!!



I just checked that link..........seems pretty bland. I'm out of the loop so forgive me.....this isn't the full FAQ right?
   
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I just checked that link..........seems pretty bland. I'm out of the loop so forgive me.....this isn't the full FAQ right?


It appears to be the full "big" faq yes.

I'm guessing the T'au, Necron and DE ones that were "going to be part of it" are going to be separate now.
   
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punisher357 wrote:

I just checked that link..........seems pretty bland. I'm out of the loop so forgive me.....this isn't the full FAQ right?

it is more than I expected
I guess the big FAQ before Adepticon was just the point change on the last page?

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I just checked that link..........seems pretty bland. I'm out of the loop so forgive me.....this isn't the full FAQ right?


Army specific FAQs are in the usual style of seperate documents for the army.


 
   
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I was really hoping for more point cost reductions.
   
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Ooooh, big nerf to Alpha legion cultist spam.

Codex: Chaos Space Marines Page 159 – Tide of Traitors
Add the following sentence:
‘You can only use this Stratagem once per battle.’
   
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I didn't think I could think less of GW's dev team but they did it.
   
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1) Multiple FNP no longer stacks
2) The smite nerf is now official, but GK and TS mini-smite are excepted
3) Deep strike only in your own deployment zone in the first battle-round
4) Battalion +5CP, Brigade +12 CP
5) Dark Reapers got a point increase, Commissars got a decrease
6) No more Imperium/Chaos/Aeldari soup detachments. You can still soup up, but you will need separate detachments to do so.
7) Tide of Traitors can only be used once per battle
8) The same datasheet can only be included three times in a battleforged army, unless it is a troop or dedicated transport

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hobojebus wrote:
I didn't think I could think less of GW's dev team but they did it.


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hobojebus wrote:
I didn't think I could think less of GW's dev team but they did it.


I am not surprised by this statement. Not because I agree with you, but because I expected you to have that outlook.
   
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So sad that they didn't nerf that stupid plague burst crawler
   
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Eh, once again they've missed something (unless the FW rumours are true...)

Elysian Lord Commisars still cost 61 points lol, but all the others dropped significantly.


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Also, is it just me, or did the cost of the flyrant only go up by 20 points? (well 14 if you take 2 devourers and 2 rending claws)

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ITT:

People that were salty about GW continue to be salty about GW.
People that weren't salty about GW continue to not be salty about GW.
People who want 40k to be something it isn't are continually disappointed.
People who are comfortable with 40k where its at are fine.

Earth shattering FAQ, that was.
   
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Slight nerf to the Eldar CP farm as well. Autarchs can no longer roll for CP when your opponent spends them.
   
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Kdash wrote:
Eh, once again they've missed something (unless the FW rumours are true...)

Elysian Lord Commisars still cost 61 points lol, but all the others dropped significantly.


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Also, is it just me, or did the cost of the flyrant only go up by 20 points? (well 14 if you take 2 devourers and 2 rending claws)
Its fine. 3 Flyrants isn't really the problem. 7 was.
   
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Kdash wrote:



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Also, is it just me, or did the cost of the flyrant only go up by 20 points? (well 14 if you take 2 devourers and 2 rending claws)


Flyrabt spam has been heavily nerfed by the nerf to deepstrike in the first Battle-round.
   
 
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