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Any idea what the new weapons the armigers are getting are? We know one is a giant multi laser

I’m hoping it’s the heavy onslaught Gatling gun

Given the missing sprue from Forgebane, I'm guessing it's just one extra shooting weapon, one more HTH weapon, and one more carapace gun.

Of the chainglaive thingy is it, and it's two more guns (a long ranged weapon that kills big things and an anti-infantry gun) plus an alternate carapace gun (an anti-infantry one).

gendoikari87 wrote:
Any idea what the new weapons the armigers are getting are? We know one is a giant multi laser

Oh? Is there a solid source on this?

 Mymearan wrote:
This is what I see when I click that spikeybits link:


And I can't click past it. So... can anyone share the rumour in a non-eye-bleeding format?

Re-posting:

Terrain is like tech priest with the ability to re-load, heal, and max out weapon shots for a Knight. Amrigers get Dakka with 2 amped up guns, and character gets a laser weapon like a Chimera, but you know, bigger.

Oh and if you like wolves, you will love the new knight character.

Codex fixes two problems with the Armiger, high points and weak to hordes in combat. Both new Armigers will cost less that a leman russ, and chainreaper will gain a multi-attack ability. Helverin gets dakka that taken over several models leaves any other walker’s firepower in the dust.


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 Geifer wrote:

I hope they don't just fix the Armiger's high points. Knights aren't what they used to and generally too expensive in 8th ed.

Agreed. But, the ability to put another full-sized knight on the table fixes some of the problems.

A 2+/4++ standard save would be another solid move. A couple more weapon options, especially another long-range main gun, would help. A better system to mix and match weapons seems clearly needed as well.

Some of it will be fixed with stratagems and house tactics. I'm hoping for a "flanking manuver," allowing a Knight to enter on any table edge, a quick repair, and an overclocked charge to move/advance/charge.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Given the missing sprue from Forgebane, I'm guessing it's just one extra shooting weapon, one more HTH weapon, and one more carapace gun.

Of the chainglaive thingy is it, and it's two more guns (a long ranged weapon that kills big things and an anti-infantry gun) plus an alternate carapace gun (an anti-infantry one).

I'm also expecting another set of shoulders without the AdMec aesthetic.

 drazz wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
This is what I see when I click that spikeybits link:


And I can't click past it. So... can anyone share the rumour in a non-eye-bleeding format?

Re-posting:

Terrain is like tech priest with the ability to re-load, heal, and max out weapon shots for a Knight. Amrigers get Dakka with 2 amped up guns, and character gets a laser weapon like a Chimera, but you know, bigger.

Okay, going off this I'm guessing that what it's saying for the terrain is that it's something allowing for you to repair the Knight, get the maximum value for their variable weapons, and get to double fire?

I kinda hope they keep the cleaver as it is and introduce another melee weapon for multi-attacks. The current melee weapon is good for anti-tank. If they get even a little customization we might be able to equip an anti-horde gun with an anti-tank melee weapon.

But cheaper armigers just sounds wonderful. The sheer amount of posts I saw wondering why people would take armigers over a cheaper and more deadly dreadnaught was crazy.

Armigers can be used without needing to use an allied detachment though, plus not everybody is a fan of the angry washing machines.

Agreed. I like the overall look of armigers better. I just wish they had a waist like big knights.They look pretty..but also a bit goofy. As a space wolf and knight fan, the rumours are sounding pretty great.

I think the melee is fine with just a multi attack option for the Armiger. The cleaver isn’t that bad. We need more anti infantry

The cleaver isn't bad, that's why I think it would be alright with keeping the cleaver but adding another melee weapon.

We don’t need another weapon of the cleaver gets a second profile

That's a good alternative actually. Lots of things have a chop or slice option now. a x2 strength and x3 melee attacks variations would work well. Plus that way I don't have to modify another four melee weapons on those tiny knights. I changed all the cleavers to be more like polearms. Armigers couldn't hit infantry units before..it looked silly to me.

Latest Regimental Standard: https://regimental-standard.com/2018/05/16/the-dos-and-donts-of-fighting-with-the-questor-imperialis/

Not long now.

 BrookM wrote:
Latest Regimental Standard: https://regimental-standard.com/2018/05/16/the-dos-and-donts-of-fighting-with-the-questor-imperialis/

Not long now.

august is a ways away

It's not going to be in August. The next three codices were deathwatch, harlequins, and imperial knights. If it was August that means nothing new for 2+ months.

 mmzero252 wrote:
It's not going to be in August. The next three codices were deathwatch, harlequins, and imperial knights. If it was August that means nothing new for 2+ months.

the calendar is full of failmar till at least late july

They release both at the same time you know. Right now they're previewing Harlequins and the new AoS edition.

 mmzero252 wrote:
It's not going to be in August. The next three codices were deathwatch, harlequins, and imperial knights. If it was August that means nothing new for 2+ months.

Possibly, but there is a big release due with the new edition of AOS. That could take up a few months. Also Deathwatch and Harlequins ( and not that long ago Necron) have been released very close together. A few 40k clampacks of whatever faction could be used to ensure that 40k is not bereft of releases for a couple of months. But this is just guess work on my part, so who knows?

The run-up to a new edition is also noticeably longer than the run-up to a new army book; 40k 8th edition was initially announced on April 22nd but not released until June 3rd. That's roughly a month and a half for those of you playing the home version. A month and a half from May 12th would put it at the back end of June, which does leave the early part of June open for Imperial Knights.

Releasing in August isn't impossible, but given the trends of GW's behavior with product seeing pre-orders go up on June 2nd seems the more likely outcome.

I’m not holding my breath

I don't think anyone should hold their breath until the codex is out. I've heard 15 minutes without oxygen causes brain damage. It sure as hell won't be out in that amount of time.

The Regimental Standard stuff tends to be quite close to release typically around 2-3 weeks. I'd hazard a guess that it'd be on preorder by the 2nd June, maybe even the week before.

Looking forward to it because I really want a couple of knights!

If the rumours about the amount of kits for IK are true the release could be stretched out over several weeks. Even if the first pre orders go up on the 26th of May I could see them covering most of June, with AoS V2 going up for an extended pre order at the end of the month.

Has there been anything said about changes to the standard knight kit? Added weapons or is everything coming all new kits?

stangfan94 wrote:
Has there been anything said about changes to the standard knight kit? Added weapons or is everything coming all new kits?

New kits.

The Knight Warden kit is the only kit that gets stocked right now at shops. There's some shops still with the original Knight kit that doesn't have the Warden frame, but they damn well shouldn't be marking it up to the Warden's price since GW runs them as two different SKUs.

 Kanluwen wrote:

stangfan94 wrote:
Has there been anything said about changes to the standard knight kit? Added weapons or is everything coming all new kits?

New kits.

The Knight Warden kit is the only kit that gets stocked right now at shops. There's some shops still with the original Knight kit that doesn't have the Warden frame, but they damn well shouldn't be marking it up to the Warden's price since GW runs them as two different SKUs.

i thought the knight kit was like the baneblade kit and had the bits to make EVERYTHING

They are going to have a bigger one and the baby ones that might come in packs of two.

Maybe an even bigger or specialer one that also can make a special character.

Edit: hopefully if the points go down on the main knights they also bring down the points on the FW knights quickly. Otherwise, blech.

GW are doing a future of 40K seminar & Q&A at the UK Games Expo on the 1st, so I imagine we'll be seeing the knights up for pre-order that weekend, if they don't use the Expo for the big reveal.

gendoikari87 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

stangfan94 wrote:
Has there been anything said about changes to the standard knight kit? Added weapons or is everything coming all new kits?

New kits.

The Knight Warden kit is the only kit that gets stocked right now at shops. There's some shops still with the original Knight kit that doesn't have the Warden frame, but they damn well shouldn't be marking it up to the Warden's price since GW runs them as two different SKUs.

i thought the knight kit was like the baneblade kit and had the bits to make EVERYTHING

Originally knights were released in box of 2 variants. Rapid fire battle cannon and thermal cannon. No carapace weapon. Later GW released new version with extra sprue(s) containing the rest. GW sells still both kits so if you want all weapons you need to pick up the more expensive kit. Cheaper one has just 2 basic variants and no carapace weapons.