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Well....



What the started bringing up after the dark side is mostly good, I think if invader (and most stretch goals up to dark side) did not exist and it started with Dark side the negativity would not be that bad.

That been said I kinda feel Dark side feels like it was a later campaign pushed into this one.

MULTIPASS! Good choice on the latest goal I think.

Until this kickstarter I was not aware that the 5th Element was as popular a film as it seems to be.

This SG has to be one of the most requested, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why haha

It's a classic honestly. Great movie.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:


What the started bringing up after the dark side is mostly good, I think if invader (and most stretch goals up to dark side) did not exist and it started with Dark side the negativity would not be that bad.

Has 'the negativity' been that bad anywhere other than here, which in itself has been limited to a few individuals?

I think on BGG there was a fair amount of grumblings about the design of the aliens and the lack of zombies. Also the usual day one 'is this a failure' kind of posts by doomsayers.

As the campaign has gone on, there has been less negativity and Dark Side has marked a definite swing towards a trend of positive posts.

 Grinshanks wrote:
Until this kickstarter I was not aware that the 5th Element was as popular a film as it seems to be.

This SG has to be one of the most requested, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why haha

Hey Grim, how old are you? Amazingly the Fifth Element is... 21 this year. That's nuts. That said, Milla must be mid-40's now.

I'm 30. I have seen the film, once. I vaguely remember the hype at the time...

I just didn't realise it was still as popular as it is today! Easily one of the most requested models in the KS

 Grinshanks wrote:
I'm 30. I have seen the film, once. I vaguely remember the hype at the time...

I just didn't realise it was still as popular as it is today! Easily one of the most requested models in the KS

The movie had Bruce Willis at the height of his popularity. Probably all those people requesting her are old Gen Xers like me. At least CMON can now fend off some of the nerd rage since she's been included. Others that are strongly desired are Riddick, Samus, Thundercats, Master Chief, which I don't think will make it in there. We'll see.

Driller Blitzers might seem like the Drillers you're already familiar with at first, but they're much, much worse! Ok, so they are basically Tanks, dealing 2 damage per attack, and requiring 2 damage to eliminate. But they're also as fast as Hunters, performing two actions per activation. So yeah, hard to take down, incredibly fast, and will tear your head off when it gets to you.

Oh, and don't forget, as a Driller, it's harder to destroy if it's in a Pit zone. Just thought I'd mention.

I hope these get made into add ons as well I could use them as Plague 2nd Gens they are exactly what I have been looking for.

Yeah this Driller Blitzers are, at least for me, my favourite model of all the ones that have been shown in this kickstarter. I could have great use for a bunch of them.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Well....

Hahaha, awesome!

Show 'em your badge, that'll stop 'em dead in their tracks!

Ooh, Driller Blitzers as 2nd gen plague are a pretty good idea. Might as well have the Abomination as a 1st gen while you're at it!

Vasquez! that's the first mini to appear in both this and Sedition Wars (although under other names)





And plague gang add on by Stefan Kopinski

The plague gang is the first optional that has properly caught my attention. Nice set. Hopefully there is no Gorman to mess up their chances

The scifi homages are strong in this campaign.. and I approve! Are they typically kickstarter only with CMON or are they included for retail copies as well whether in the base game or supplements later on down the line?

The not-vasques is marked as Kickstarter only. The Kickstarter page notes that after the campaign is over the only way to get those minis is at special events while stocks last. So unlikely to be available at retail.

Well now they bring out the good ones.

Well, you know what they say about opinions...

...and it isn't just that there have been plenty of good things here since the start!

But yes, these recent ones are quite nice too!

Well that's the driller blitzers funded. I wonder what the next update will bring. Probably a goal for soldier or dark side stuff which doesn't apply to me, but still Quite exciting.


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W00t. Not Vasquez also unlocked. The Kickstarter team must be taking Sunday off though. I wonder what the last 3 days will hold.

Mendez unlocked and pose changed - action pose is better - they've saved the better stuff for the end

They are both nice additions, but it seems like they'll need to pull something special out soon to get much beyond the widowmaker though.

How has the mini quality changed (if at all) since the very first Zombicide game? That's the only one I have played and the minis were very.. average. Adequate for the board game but nothing I would want to borrow from for RPG or wargaming purposes.

Invader has the expected CMoN value proposition (barring the whole game within a game thing) but right now the deciding factor for me between this and Street Fighter is how useful the models will be outside of the game itself.

Details have improved. I'm fine with using them for RPGs and wargaming, but if you're expecting GW or some of the metals and resins I've seen in some KS, then might as well play it safe and pass.

 Siygess wrote:
How has the mini quality changed (if at all) since the very first Zombicide game? That's the only one I have played and the minis were very.. average. Adequate for the board game but nothing I would want to borrow from for RPG or wargaming purposes.

Invader has the expected CMoN value proposition (barring the whole game within a game thing) but right now the deciding factor for me between this and Street Fighter is how useful the models will be outside of the game itself.

I'd say you'd be pleasantly surprised, especially if you are mostly excited about using the aliens.
I find their minis only really show their limitations on very slight female minis.

Just saw an interesting bit of info on KS on Invader.

For the 23rd day of campaign Invader is currently doing the second best out of all the Zombicides (only Green Horde had earned more by this time).

However, Invaders campaign is shorter than the rest by 5 days.

Why do you think they went with a shorter campaign?

(cumulative funding info - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s254EnwAFEmEhZx_z6Zwvt9Np-AvvHckKzJjsF6ov28/edit#gid=167968194 )

 Grinshanks wrote:
Just saw an interesting bit of info on KS on Invader.

For the 23rd day of campaign Invader is currently doing the second best out of all the Zombicides (only Green Horde had earned more by this time).

However, Invaders campaign is shorter than the rest by 5 days.

Why do you think they went with a shorter campaign?

(cumulative funding info - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s254EnwAFEmEhZx_z6Zwvt9Np-AvvHckKzJjsF6ov28/edit#gid=167968194 )

The chart you list only has Invaders up to day 21, so did they post numbers on the KS comments for day 23?

I think Kicktraq is up to date with some of its graphs.

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/cmon/zombicide-invader/

 Theophony wrote:

 Grinshanks wrote:
Just saw an interesting bit of info on KS on Invader.

For the 23rd day of campaign Invader is currently doing the second best out of all the Zombicides (only Green Horde had earned more by this time).

However, Invaders campaign is shorter than the rest by 5 days.

Why do you think they went with a shorter campaign?

(cumulative funding info - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s254EnwAFEmEhZx_z6Zwvt9Np-AvvHckKzJjsF6ov28/edit#gid=167968194 )

The chart you list only has Invaders up to day 21, so did they post numbers on the KS comments for day 23?

Whoops my bad I wrote the wrong day, we are now on day 21.

The campaign overtook BP on the 20th day.

Shorter campaigns are easier to manage (less staff time), and tend to bring in similar amounts of cash especially if it's a heavily advertised/discussed project where a large number of backers come in on day 1 (and even more see the project and hit remind me to check in on the last 2 day to see if its reached 'must have' value)

and as long as you're letting people in via late pledging you pull in even more without KS taking a cut

so there's no real advantage to running longer unless you're a small project that really needs the extra time to get the word out (and even then you're vunerable to people seeing a new shiney KS to switch to during the mid campaign lull)

Edit: longer campaigns are also vulnerable to stretch goals demands (not CMON so much any more, they're putting them out as an when they want rather than really based on cash in) where people expect more stuff every few days at least and if they don't get it they may pull out even if the deal is great anyway and your production slot/cost quote might well have hard limits that you don't want to go over)

I strongly suspect CMON could run them as 2 week project without making any real dent in their total take